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white_guilt 03-24-2011 10:04 PM

If money was no object and you were tasked with building..
 
the most powerful and stable N/A motor and a forced inducted motor, which motor would you go with, and what components would you use? This is just a random question that I would like to hear peoples' opinions on (people with more knowledge than me).

Let's say money is no object and these are going to be your dream motors- doesn't have to mean the car will still be streetable. To stop people from just going with a BMW v12 or something, the displacement limit will be set at 4 liters.

604CRX 03-24-2011 10:06 PM

2JZ and lots of boost!

dangonay 03-24-2011 10:20 PM

Stupid to limit it to 4.0L displacement. You just excluded any Amercian V8, many of which can produce outstanding numbers.
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roastpuff 03-24-2011 10:21 PM

I *was* going to say the LS-series engines for both, but that damn displacement limit...

Honda RA109E 72° V10 (675hp at 13000 rpm), for N/A.

BMW M13 for turbo, with about 900hp.

No one said you couldn't use F1 engines... :fullofwin:

k3mps 03-24-2011 10:28 PM

rb26dett with gt2530 turbos, rom tuned ecu, hks headers, r1 titan exhaust

white_guilt 03-24-2011 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangonay (Post 7360227)
Stupid to limit it to 4.0L displacement. You just excluded any Amercian V8, many of which can produce outstanding numbers.
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I said, "stable" . jking. tell me more about some of the V8s than please, I've heard good things about the Ls1 engine, but I have no idea about American.

k3mps 03-24-2011 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by white_guilt (Post 7360241)
I said, "stable" . jking. tell me more about some of the V8s than please, I've heard good things about the Ls1 engine, but I have no idea about American.

hennessey venom gt??

6.2L ls9, twin garret turbochargers, fuel injected v8. pushing up to 1200hp.

white_guilt 03-24-2011 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lllggg (Post 7360251)
hennessey venom gt??

6.2L ls9, twin garret turbochargers, fuel injected v8. pushing up to 1200hp.

i put the displacement limit because to me, it's more impressive seeing 1000 or more horses squeezed out of something less than 4 liters, than a 12 liter beast, but that's just me.

btw, you guys have only mentioned the force inducted ones, how about the N/As?

toyota86 03-24-2011 10:47 PM

i'll play

boosted
rb26dett 2.8L stroker. call up tomei and tell them you want everything on their rb26 genesis catalog. over 600hp. 35k should do it.
http://www.tomei-p.co.jp/_2003web-ca..._g_p-2_big.jpg

not boosted
m60b40 race engine from vac motorsport. 4.0L v8 with itbs. rated well over 600hp in race form N/A. can be boosted for more power. no price listed but i bet its at least 30k
http://www.nexternal.com/vacmotors/i...ain%20VAC2.jpg

bloodmack 03-24-2011 10:52 PM

if i had unlimited resources id just build a motor from scratch. :)

ilvtofu 03-24-2011 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by white_guilt (Post 7360256)
i put the displacement limit because to me, it's more impressive seeing 1000 or more horses squeezed out of something less than 4 liters, than a 12 liter beast, but that's just me.

It is also typically less reliable.

Anyways hands down a 911 motor ie. GT3RS for an N/A 3.8L 450hp, track proven

Even the basic 3.8 in the 997.2 carrera S is an awesome motor that has just under 400hp. Decent on gas and daily drivable, good starting point for a build I guess

k3mps 03-25-2011 12:48 AM

for the street, youre not gona get anything better than a BMW p60b40 engine
used in the m3gtr street version, 4.0L, 493hp

!e.lo_ 03-25-2011 01:01 AM

Oh more RB love than I thought!

If I wanted to build a motor, yes, RB, but I'd go to Mine's. Gotta love response and pickup instead of outright power.

Buy a motor... BMW P83? 19,000RPM 900+hp.

!LittleDragon 03-25-2011 09:45 AM

http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/854...ve_springs.jpg

Beyond 4.0L... Norwood's 4000hp 5.0L 4cyl drag engine that runs on nitromethane :D

yogenfruz 03-25-2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon (Post 7360673)
http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/854...ve_springs.jpg

Beyond 4.0L... Norwood's 4000hp 5.0L 4cyl drag engine that runs on nitromethane :D

4.0L limit, haha.

Such a ridiculous engine though, gotta love drags.

Tegra_Devil 03-25-2011 09:55 AM

NSX 3.8L stroker, supercharged :)...fully built

tofu1413 03-25-2011 10:29 AM

hmm.. gonna be an idiot and build the world's first six rotor n/a motor.


fuse two 20B's together with a custom crank...

PK-EK 03-25-2011 10:49 AM

custom v8 block with 2 K20 heads..... 4.0L 500hp+ N/A easily with bolt ons....

JoshuaWong 03-25-2011 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 7360691)
NSX 3.8L stroker, supercharged :)...fully built

or maybe a a 3.5L V6 from the Super GT NSX? de-restricted of course ;)

dangonay 03-25-2011 11:30 AM

Kaase P-51 502 cubic inch V8. 800 HP, 740 lb/ft. Fully assembled and dyno tested for $14,900 US. Oh, and it's NA to boot.

Kaase P-51

I'd love to see any Skyline or Supra get 800HP for only $15K and be anywhere near as reliable.

And this is only one engine I picked. If you google for Chevy, Ford or Mopar racing engines there are literally dozens of companies and hundreds of different engine combinations to choose from.

2damaxmr2 03-25-2011 11:41 AM

Twin charger 7mgte.

Great68 03-25-2011 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangonay (Post 7360822)
Kaase P-51 502 cubic inch V8. 800 HP, 740 lb/ft. Fully assembled and dyno tested for $14,900 US. Oh, and it's NA to boot.

Kaase P-51

I'd love to see any Skyline or Supra get 800HP for only $15K and be anywhere near as reliable.

And this is only one engine I picked. If you google for Chevy, Ford or Mopar racing engines there are literally dozens of companies and hundreds of different engine combinations to choose from.

Why settle for a piddly little 502 (8L)making only 800 horse, when you can get an 820 (13.4L) making 1800+ ? :p

http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com...15fordhemi.jpg

Mind you, money would have to be no object because one of these bad boys is $60,000 or more

skylinergtr 03-25-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyota86 (Post 7360259)
i'll play

not boosted
m60b40 race engine from vac motorsport. 4.0L v8 with itbs. rated well over 600hp in race form N/A. can be boosted for more power. no price listed but i bet its at least 30k
http://www.nexternal.com/vacmotors/i...ain%20VAC2.jpg


i vant that vac m60 motor in my 5er so fricken bad.

that would be my option too.

death_blossom 03-25-2011 10:08 PM

how about take one of the WRC spec engines from last year and take out the restrictor plate.

cococly 03-26-2011 12:51 AM

http://images.gizmag.com/gallery_lrg...0506112050.jpg

3.0L BMW V10 P83 Formula One Engine (2003 spec)

900hp@19200rpm!


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