Harper Comic - If you're voting conservative, find out what you're voting for

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by Soundy

Oh please, this isn't the first time Ignatieff has tried to force a no confidence motion through... it's just the first time he's has sufficient reason for it to be successful. The man is an opportunist.

And you think Harpers any different?

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by baggdis300

so im going to assume majority of posters here are conservatives ?

Never assume anything.

Especially, never assume that a given party's name is in any way representative of their politics, especially not in Canadian politics, and especially not these days.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by MajinHurricane

The conservative party is a bunch of crooks who use fear driven tactics, religious zealous to appeal to idiots and will sell out their own country to give reach around to corporations.

I'd rather corporations get $$$ that Liberal friends and government workers.

If Iggy was campaigning on what made Chretien great I'd vote Liberal. Yet these Liberals are not those Liberals and Iggy is not Chretien.

All that aside, Harper has been very good at keeping the religious nutcases out of the way. 5 years and what religious stupidity has occurred?

[Meowjin]

I'm done with you taylor. You seem to ignore any rhetoric from the previous threads and spout out stupidity. I'm going to assume you work for a corp, so your level of selfeshness fits in with the conservative politics.
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Bagdis: don't let revscene distort your perception. This site is mostly asian. Most are voting conservative, just because a chinese canadian is running In their distric. The cons are trying to pull this off in vancouver south. But I hope they reelect dosanjh because the guy really does care abour his communnity.

[Meowjin]

Originally Posted by Manic!

And you think Harpers any different?

It doesn't matter what harper did in 04 or that he prorogued parliament twice. All that matters is ignatieff wants to raise taxes and raise hitler from the grave and the streets will run rampent with blood


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[drunkrussian]

comics are short and funny. this is neither. this is a propoganda
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[Soundy]

Originally Posted by MajinHurricane

blah blah blah blah blah blah. You seem to ignore any rhetoric from the previous threads blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

So you're saying you DON'T ignore rhetoric? You buy into it? Maybe even spread it?

[MG1]

I don't like discussing politics, but one thing is for sure ---

Igwhatshisnuts creeps me out. So does Harper, mind you, as he looks like a child molester, but this Iggy dude is like just wrong. Sometimes, you walk into a room and get negative vibes from a certain individual. Iggy gives me wrong vibes through the god damn television. I don't know what it is..... maybe it's his eyebrows, LOL.

[m!chael]

Originally Posted by MajinHurricane

I'm done with you taylor. You seem to ignore any rhetoric from the previous threads and spout out stupidity. I'm going to assume you work for a corp, so your level of selfeshness fits in with the conservative politics.
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Bagdis: don't let revscene distort your perception. This site is mostly asian. Most are voting conservative, just because a chinese canadian is running In their distric. The cons are trying to pull this off in vancouver south. But I hope they reelect dosanjh because the guy really does care abour his communnity.

Alice Wong (c) beat Raymond Chan (l) in the Richmond riding in the previous election. Both are Asian.

[carisear]

Originally Posted by MajinHurricane

Bagdis: don't let revscene distort your perception. This site is mostly asian. Most are voting conservative, just because a chinese canadian is running In their distric. The cons are trying to pull this off in vancouver south. But I hope they reelect dosanjh because the guy really does care abour his communnity.

... there are so many things wrong in this one statement, it's actually quite impressive how you did that.

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by carisear

... there are so many things wrong in this one statement, it's actually quite impressive how you did that.

Takes lots of practice.

[Ikkaku]

Originally Posted by m!chael

Alice Wong (c) beat Raymond Chan (l) in the Richmond riding in the previous election. Both are Asian.

And don't forget Joe Peschisolido (if you couldn't get the hint from his surname, he's NOT chinese) also beat Raymond Chan after his many years of reign.

However, he is a bad example since that guy jumped ships not too long after, but the fact remains the same, a non-chinese beat a chinese person in Richmond.

[baggdis300]

notice any similarities between a dictator and iggy?

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by MajinHurricane

I'm done with you taylor. You seem to ignore any rhetoric from the previous threads and spout out stupidity. I'm going to assume you work for a corp, so your level of selfeshness fits in with the conservative politics.

Hopefully you are done. I have responded to almost all your rhetoric with facts about all the parties, which you cannot dispute except to turn to the "moral" argument without realizing the corruption of the Liberal party is what landed the Conservatives a minority in the first place - yet that's another fact you can chose to ignore, yet please keep your BS to yourself.

[MG1]

Originally Posted by baggdis300

notice any similarities between a dictator and iggy?

Jeeeezuz, man, where the hell do you even find creepy pics like that?


You scare me..............


just kidding

[baggdis300]

lol, it was stolen from another forum i frequent..

[MindBomber]

Originally Posted by Soundy

You know... he talks a good game. I like that I haven't yet seen a single Liberal-made attack ad, and in fact, the only Liberal ad that comes immediately to mind is Ignatieff stating WHY he doesn't do attack ads. This is big, to me, because the one thing that absolutely drives me nuts and inspires me NOT to vote at all, is the attack ads. I don't care what YOU (the candidate/party) say you think your opponents are doing wrong... I don't need to be told why I shouldn't vote for the other guy... I want to know why I SHOULD vote for YOU.

I've also noticed that the only attack ads I've seen this election are those released by the Americans, whoops I mean Conservatives, and that's significantly improved my opinion of Ignatieff. The several month long pre-election conservative campaign financed by the conservative party itself as attack ads, and using tax payer dollars to finance a series of commercials to talk up Harper is a bit of a sore spot for me. It's as if they were preparing for the upcoming election, trying to lengthen the campaign process making our election similar to that of the Americans two year long campaigns.

Another two bits of Harper policy that I find especially disturbing is his desire to allow corporate campaign contributions, which could lead to an influx of lobbyists, and his changing of official government letterhead from "Government of Canada" to "Harper Government of Canada", last time I checked the conservatives didn't hold every seat in parliament.

[MindBomber]

You're correct, at least in part, green projects are never feasible in the short term without subsidies because of the requirement to invest and risk massive sums of money on developing the infrastructure necessary to support new industries. That's true with any major new industries though, the tabled conservative budget included plans to build a road from now-where to oil in the Arctic. I doubt an oil company would be willing to invest billions (I don't remember the actual figure) on building and maintaining a public road to facilitate year round trucking, and that may be enough for them to write-off a discovery as not being financially possible. Why should any less be expected of green industries, just because they're on the forefront of new technology doesn't mean they're in any way less entitled to subsidies.

I remember watching a program on the passionate eye about how Germany spent $50 million on building a solar panel production facility for a private company, small change to a government,but enough to attract the company and now Germany has become a world leader in solar panel technology. In the long term the investment will likely pay for itself through tax revenues directly linked to that company. Btw, the company they built the plant for is owned by a Canadian and was formerly based in Canada.

Originally Posted by taylor192

Look at Ontario, any tax incentives have to be paid for somehow. Ontario has a multi billion dollar push for green energy, which is being reflected in utility bills rising 25% already.

Oh, I should be more clear - green products are never financially feasible without subsidies, not tax incentives. Subsidies have to be paid for by the tax payer.

Yet lets be honest - being "green" is a luxury of the wealthy. Being green costs more, so its great when times are good, yet the last thing people think of when times are bad - thus why in the last 2 years most of the world has forgotten about being green.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by MindBomber

his changing of official government letterhead from "Government of Canada" to "Harper Government of Canada", last time I checked the conservatives didn't hold every seat in parliament.

Dude, you have no clue. My friend worked PR in the government, and then the Conservatives first took power she spent most of her time rebranding everything from red to blue.

I have a problem with this, since it is a waste of tax payer dollars, and Canada is red, not blue. I understand why it happens, since red is associated with the Liberals. Tax dollars should not be wasted on these measures - unfortunately every party does this. Have you seen the Christie Clark commercials? Same crap, wasting tax payer dollars advertizing party policies, yet from the provincial Liberal party.

Thus as bad as it sounds, I overlook this crap, cause sadly its politics, and every party is going to do it.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by MindBomber

You're correct, at least in part, green projects are never feasible in the short term without subsidies because of the requirement to invest and risk massive sums of money on developing the infrastructure necessary to support new industries. That's true with any major new industries though, the tabled conservative budget included plans to build a road from now-where to oil in the Arctic. I doubt an oil company would be willing to invest billions (I don't remember the actual figure) on building and maintaining a public road to facilitate year round trucking, and that may be enough for them to write-off a discovery as not being financially possible. Why should any less be expected of green industries, just because they're on the forefront of new technology doesn't mean they're in any way less entitled to subsidies.

I'm against any government subsidy. I wish the Conservatives were too, sadly they support subsidizing the oil sands.

Governments should not be picking winners and losers, the market should. No one entity can predict the future, government especially. Government should only intervene when citizens want it. Ie if we really want green energy, then we vote our tax dollars to pay for it.

[Gunsmokez]

Originally Posted by MajinHurricane

I'm done with you taylor. You seem to ignore any rhetoric from the previous threads and spout out stupidity. I'm going to assume you work for a corp, so your level of selfeshness fits in with the conservative politics.
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Bagdis: don't let revscene distort your perception. This site is mostly asian. Most are voting conservative, just because a chinese canadian is running In their distric. The cons are trying to pull this off in vancouver south. But I hope they reelect dosanjh because the guy really does care abour his communnity.

Thanks for that bit of info. I was confused on who to vote for. But, since I'm asian I guess I should vote for the Conservative party.

[s300ae]

this is somewhat relevant

http://ezralevant.com/2011/04/the-cb...ompany-an.html

[goo3]

Originally Posted by baggdis300

so im going to assume majority of posters here are conservatives ?

Is it really that far fetched for you to consider that the majority here aren't emotionally attached to any of these parties, unlike some fanboys in this thread?

IMO, the role of the voter is like that of an employer or customer. Who's the best candidate for the job? Who's putting in the best bid for my vote? Justify why you should get the job. We ALL belong to Team Canada, right? OK apparently not..

First, to already have made up your mind before listening/reading what they have planned for the next 3-5 yrs is a waste of a vote. I swear some of you guys approach voting like you approach impulse buying candy: "I like this brand but not that one cuz I don't like the color."

Second, the two leading candidates are fairly highly educated and seem to take pride in the work they do, much like you or I. But according to the comic, I'm supposed to believe that Harper's a monster. Really? I don't know what to say.. Why are you even posting bullshit like this? Are you 2 yrs old?

[Ikkaku]

Originally Posted by MindBomber

I've also noticed that the only attack ads I've seen this election are those released by the Americans, whoops I mean Conservatives, and that's significantly improved my opinion of Ignatieff. The several month long pre-election conservative campaign financed by the conservative party itself as attack ads, and using tax payer dollars to finance a series of commercials to talk up Harper is a bit of a sore spot for me. It's as if they were preparing for the upcoming election, trying to lengthen the campaign process making our election similar to that of the Americans two year long campaigns.

on fairchild (Chinese channel) all they air are liberal attack ads on conservatives, EVERY commercial break. Their political tv shows are all quite biased as well, they do give a pro-liberal vibe with the way they ask questions. During interviews and their radio shows they pretty much go rahrahhh liberal and sometimes prematurely cut off conservative supporters. How's that for freedom of speech?

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by MindBomber

I remember watching a program on the passionate eye about how Germany spent $50 million on building a solar panel production facility for a private company, small change to a government,but enough to attract the company and now Germany has become a world leader in solar panel technology. In the long term the investment will likely pay for itself through tax revenues directly linked to that company. Btw, the company they built the plant for is owned by a Canadian and was formerly based in Canada.

Yeah, I think the important thing is to make WISE investments, rather than just throwing money at anything "green", as so many governments (and levels of government) seem to do.