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Old 04-18-2011, 12:11 PM   #1
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GT-R smokes LFA

I think most of you guys have seen this...the 485hp GT-R vs LFA


and now, the updated 2012 530hp GT-R vs LFA

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lfa is so much sexier though



but everyone knows the GTR is a monster especially for its price

but when you consider things like that... then you may as well just get a Mustang
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lfa is so much sexier though



but everyone knows the GTR is a monster especially for its price

but when you consider things like that... then you may as well just get a Mustang
umm...WHY???

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Or, you know. A ZR1
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Lets see Supersnake vs. GT-R 100mph to 200mph....

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the only thing they have pumped out these past few years is the damn HSV, which they refuse to put into production...

If Toyota can make the LFA sound like that and be street legal. I'm sure Honda can make a production HSV sound like it does in the race preped ones.

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umm...WHY???
because that's the old gt500 (as i understand it there's going to be a new one to make up for where it lacks due to the Mustang BOSS)

and like i said if you cared about cost to price performance the Mustang is the better bet
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bahahaha 10 years of toyota R&D beat down the 2009 GTR's, then Nissan comes along and just ups the power a little and then GG!

Can't beat Godzilla! This is so sad... it's like watching the end of Manual transmissions
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On a side note.. I saw a maroon red LFA the other day on Granville/41st and man did it sound glorious when he took off out of the Chevron.
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because that's the old gt500 (as i understand it there's going to be a new one to make up for where it lacks due to the Mustang BOSS)

and like i said if you cared about cost to price performance the Mustang is the better bet
it doesn't matter...that's the Super Snake($30,000 modification on top of the GT500), it's still faster than the newest GT500.
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Or, you know. A ZR1
ZR1: $130,445-$144,695 (this is NSX territory!)
GT-R: $99,500
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it doesn't matter...that's the Super Snake($30,000 modification on top of the GT500), it's still faster than the newest GT500.
The new BOSS does the 1/4mile in 11.7@117mph

The Super Snake does it in 11.16@128mph

pretty sure the new cobra will be insane (that's what we're hearing neway)



edit: nevermind the Boss video was misleading on it being stock.... its running on "drag slicks" -_-

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yeah...the new GT500 will have 640hp with only 285 tires

I'm still curious to see the 1/4 mile and 0-60mph though
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The new BOSS does the 1/4mile in 11.7@117mph

The Super Snake does it in 11.16@128mph

pretty sure the new cobra will be insane (that's what we're hearing neway)



edit: nevermind the Boss video was misleading on it being stock.... its running on "drag slicks" -_-
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The BOSS 302 is fucking amazing. The MT test car lapped Laguna Seca in 1:40.2 seconds, which is 0.6 faster than an Audi R8. There is a Laguna Seca package available for the car too, Ford claims it lowers the laptime to under 1:40. BOSS is BAWSSS

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V6 vs GT vs 302 vs GT500

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The new BOSS does the 1/4mile in 11.7@117mph

The Super Snake does it in 11.16@128mph
Love how it still has the dealership paperwork on the window

Customer : So how many miles ?

Sales guy: 6 babied miles...it was driven only by the general manager a few times
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GTR and the LFA don't even compete in the same category.....the GTR is about numbers while the LFA is all about feel. Customers love the GTR because of the amazing performance numbers. The LFA is for customers that want a great driving experience with an emphasis on feel Vs all out performance #s...hence it is rwd and na.
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GTR and the LFA don't even compete in the same category.....the GTR is about numbers while the LFA is all about feel. Customers love the GTR because of the amazing performance numbers. The LFA is for customers that want a great driving experience with an emphasis on feel Vs all out performance #s...hence it is rwd and na.
this is timpo's world we're talking about here, feel/experience is a little too abstract for his mind to grasp, stats/specs cut to the chase and are easy to make sense of. It's sad how many people out there take a similar view on cars as timpo
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i agree that i feel like you get 90% of the car for a 1/4 of the price.

The GTR has the power, and the track ability.

Look at the top gear test track times:

1:19.7 - Nissan GT-R

1:22.8 - Lexus LFA (wet)

yes the LFA was done on a wet track, so i'll say they are more or less very similar.

Ofcourse I have not driven both of these vehicles so its hard to get a good opinion.

What i dearly love about the LFA is that beautiful exhaust note thanks to Yamaha's sound division.
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i agree that i feel like you get 90% of the car for a 1/4 of the price.

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I agree. However, that last 10% is sometimes worth the price
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We were talking about this the other day at work. We have several people who race regularly (and by race, I don't mean track or club days - I mean race as in dropping $20K for a weekend).

We were discussing the GT-R vs the ZR1 and how they were on the track. Two guys at work have had extensive track time in a GT-R and ZR1 (along with Z06 and various Porsche GT cars).

Bottom line: they agree that no car they have ever driven can pull harder or faster out of a corner than the GT-R. The combination of AWD and the electronic distribution of torque coupled with the dual clutch transmission pretty much guarantees this. They also feel that unless you're an extremely talented driver, you won't beat the GT-R at the track.

The ZR1, on the other hand, takes a lot of skill to drive on the track. So much power through the rear wheels requires constant inputs & adjustments from the driver. If you overstep the limits you will get bit in the ass. After a few laps in the ZR1 you'll feel like you've had a workout at the gym. The GT-R could be driven fast all day without breaking a sweat.

One comment I thought intersting was that the ZR1 is the modern day Porsche Turbo. All the qualities that made the original Turbo are also present in the ZR1. Blindingly fast, extremely visceral, scary as hell at the limits. While all other manufacturers are taming their cars with electronics (GT-R being the most extreme, but even Porsche is doing this), Chevy has made real man's sports car.

So the question is which one would they take if given the choice? The ZR1. The reason being that the GT-R is smoking fast, but boring. The car does a lot of the work for you. Even though the ZR1 is much harder to drive, it's more rewarding to the driver and provides a much higher level of excitement. If you turn in a fast lap in the GT-R you're like "of course I did, what did you expect". You turn in a fast lap in the ZR1 and you feel like you've accomplished something.


People who have a soul would pick something like a ZR1. People who only look at numbers would pick a GT-R.
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