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Old 05-02-2011, 12:12 AM   #1
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Hubcentric Ring...?

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i have a 2006 honda civic and i justbrought some new rims 17inch enkei rf-1 and im just wondering if i need hubcentric rings?

thanks please help me out
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big debate always on this...

Might as well shell out $30 just in case.
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:58 AM   #3
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most likely YES. you might notice the difference when you drive on the highway. without hubrings you might notice your steering wheel vibrate after certain speed (maybe 120kmh over)..



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hey guys,\
i have a 2006 honda civic and i justbrought some new rims 17inch enkei rf-1 and im just wondering if i need hubcentric rings?

thanks please help me out
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:45 AM   #4
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Yes if the wheels aren't hubcentric to your hubs then run a centering ring. There are a couple of risks associated to not doing so. The most common is vibration but in the most extreme cases you can have stud failure.
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where can i buy these rings around here? Is there a specific size i need?
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if u dont have this your cars gonna wobble like no tmr on highway
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i know i just need to find a place to buy them. Canadian tire perhaps?
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Any tire shop will sell them.

The next question is plastic or metal haha.
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Our hub bore is 67.1 which is something you'll have to keep in mind.
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Our hub bore is 67.1 which is something you'll have to keep in mind.
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With 5x114.3 bolt pattern:

Acura/Honda = 64.1

67.1 = Hyundai, Kia, Mitsubishi, Mazda
66.1 = Nissan
60.1 = Toyota

I'm pretty sure your wheels have a 73.1mm center bore but check the box or take it to the shop so they can measure them and give you the right rings.

You say the rims are new. Why didn't the shop recommend you get rings at time of purchase?
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With 5x114.3 bolt pattern:

Acura/Honda = 64.1

67.1 = Hyundai, Kia, Mitsubishi, Mazda
66.1 = Nissan
60.1 = Toyota

I'm pretty sure your wheels have a 73.1mm center bore but check the box or take it to the shop so they can measure them and give you the right rings.

You say the rims are new. Why didn't the shop recommend you get rings at time of purchase?
Ah my mistake, mustve been thinking of something else.
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I installed spacers but took out the hub-rings. Yes my steering starts shaking at 120km/hr. I have 18x8 rpf1 as well.

I didn't install the rings because I am afraid it will get stuck with my spacers. Driving around town, I can't go more than 80km/hr anyways.
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Clean the hub with a wire brush and apply a thin coat of Never Seize on the hub, ring, spacer and/or hub hole.

I do it on all my friend's cars and it works great. Some of them use aftermarket winter steelies and corrosion forms where the hub hole gap is, so when I go to install their summer wheels, they don't want to fit and I don't like trying to suck them in by overtightening the lugs.

A little preventative maintenance goes a long way.
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There are a twosome of dangers affiliated to not managing so. The most widespread is vibration but in the most farthest situations you can have stud failure.
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Hub rings align the wheels before the lugs go in. IF you properly hand tighten your lugs then the wheels will still be centered just as well. Thus, nobody actually needs the rings....assuming proper install.

On the other hand, if you skip the rings and then take your car in for a brake job and the mechanic uses an air gun to slam the lugs back on, then the wheels will likely NOT be centered.

Thus, I usually suggest them for anybody not 100% in charge of EVERY time the wheels are removed and loaded again.
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Hub rings align the wheels before the lugs go in. IF you properly hand tighten your lugs then the wheels will still be centered just as well. Thus, nobody actually needs the rings....assuming proper install.

On the other hand, if you skip the rings and then take your car in for a brake job and the mechanic uses an air gun to slam the lugs back on, then the wheels will likely NOT be centered.

Thus, I usually suggest them for anybody not 100% in charge of EVERY time the wheels are removed and loaded again.
Hmm. Very interesting. I brought my car to Autohaus and they gunned my wheels in TIGHT (and used a fucking wrong socket). All of my work lug nuts got stripped to the metal. I will re torque everything myself later then.
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Hmm. Very interesting. I brought my car to Autohaus and they gunned my wheels in TIGHT (and used a fucking wrong socket). All of my work lug nuts got stripped to the metal. I will re torque everything myself later then.
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Assuming they do things properly, if they had a torque stick mounted on the gun then it should be fine. I wouldn't know though!
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