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Cman333 05-20-2011 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by b92 (Post 7439811)
so laser detectors are legal, the ones that beep when there is radar gun up ahead?

If your detector picks up LASER, 99% chance you're the one getting busted.

You can pickup RADAR from quite a distance.

They are LEGAL in BC. If any cop tells you in BC they're illegal they're full of shit. I've gotten in arguements with cops over it before. Even had a cop think my air freshner was illegal cuz he thought it was a radar. LOL

It's definitely SHUNNED by the police. So I always just take mine off when a cop is nearby. Sure it's a hassle, but arguing with a power tripping cop and losing your $500+ detector is more of a hassle.

Jammers on the other hand are illegal. Laser "SHIFTERS" apparently are not illegal in BC. But again, to the cops it's all the same. You would have to battle it out in court and possibly hire a lawyer. So would end up costing you MORE than the ticket itself.

Again, these are not meant for people to use them as an excuse to speed or drive wrecklessly. If you're flying down the road doubling the limit thinking you're detector/jammer/shifter will save you, you will learn an expensive lesson and I personally hope you will lose your car.

If you're just a normal speeder (5-10km/h over limit), then sure it helps a bit.

Otherwise if you don't want tickets.... slow down. Pretty simple.

1BADMR2 05-20-2011 06:05 AM

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BNR32_Coupe 05-20-2011 06:39 AM

laser detectors are legal because they basically help remind you that in about 1 second, youll see a police officer step out on the road in the distance and tell you to pull over.

honestly, these detectors dont really benefit unless you're accelerating.

for example, if you're accelerating up to 70 km/h, and have a laser shone at you as youre accelerating, you'll have a bit of time to react to this signal and stop accelerating. of course, if you're accelerating fast, youll have even less reaction time.

another way the laser can help you is if some rays bounce off another vehicle and are picked up by yours. however, the likelyhood of that happening is pretty slim.

if you're cruising at 80 km/h, and a cop lasers you, your laser can beep, dingle, play chamillionaire - rollin, make animal noises, etc. doesn't matter what happens, you're getting a ticket at that point.

if you're the type to evade the police, you'd probably benefit from a jammer. i mean, if youre going to run from the police anyways, which is a serious crime, i doubt that adding an illegal device, such as a laser jammer, would increase your penalty anymore than the act of evasion itself.

so you can see that these detectors only reduce your chances of a ticket by a small fraction. however, not speeding increases your chances significantly, costs nothing, and doesnt get stolen if you leave it in your car overnight

melloman 05-20-2011 07:26 AM

....people don't read.. ANYWAY I'll help the OP out finally..

OP: buy one of the following;
Escort Passport 9500ix
Escort Passport Redline
Escort Passport 9500ci
Valentine One

For laser SHIFTERS (aka. Parking sensors :troll:) you can buy:
Escort Laser Shifter ZR3
Blinder M27 X-TREME
Blinder M47 X-TREME

Now none of these are cheap, everything mentioned is top of the line, so if your thinking of getting a radar detector and laser shift, be expecting to pay upwards of $1000.
Everything mentioned above is 100% LEGAL in BC, yet as mentioned, cops will ass rape you if they see these.. just because.

Glove 05-20-2011 07:41 AM

ive read multiple sources that laser jammers are indeed legal in BC if marketed as parking sensors,

I am seriously considering buying one, the speed limits here are rediculous as is, who else in the world has 80km/h on a highway?

what they say to do is when jamming laser, and your device is going off giving you the alarm, slam on your breaks as hard as you can, when you get down to legal speed, turn the jammer off so the pig gets your reading, which will read legal.

dont be leaving the jammer on all the way through the laser or they will try and get you for sure.

DHP 1 05-20-2011 07:41 AM

how many people actually got harrassed by having the detector on their dash

TouringTeg 05-20-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DHP 1 (Post 7441034)
how many people actually got harrassed by having the detector on their dash

I always wondered about this as well. When I had a radar detector I would always put it away if I was going through a road block.

melloman 05-20-2011 12:47 PM

I don't have a radar detector (YET) but when I owned by Honda Civic, I always got harrassed when going through roadblocks for just being lowered with a moderately loud exhaust. And that didn't harm anyone, I can only imagine if I had a device that hinders they're job, how I would get affected..

ruthless 05-20-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Glove (Post 7441033)
ive read multiple sources that laser jammers are indeed legal in BC if marketed as parking sensors,

I am seriously considering buying one, the speed limits here are rediculous as is, who else in the world has 80km/h on a highway?

what they say to do is when jamming laser, and your device is going off giving you the alarm, slam on your breaks as hard as you can, when you get down to legal speed, turn the jammer off so the pig gets your reading, which will read legal.

dont be leaving the jammer on all the way through the laser or they will try and get you for sure.

^+1 THIS
this is how you are supposed to use laser jammers, and this is how many people use them...

rageguy 05-20-2011 01:01 PM

It's pretty obvious when they aim at your license plate, and gets an error. If they pull you over, they could ask to look under your hood for the light emitters. Sure you can say it's parking sensor, but you will have to fight it in court.

If you are dead set on getting a "parking sensor", the Antilaser G9 is currently rated one of the best. If price is an issue, Blinder M27 works fine too. You should also consider a radar and laser detector. The Valentine 1 is very popular, and so is the Escort Passport line.

Cman333 05-20-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rageguy (Post 7441293)
It's pretty obvious when they aim at your license plate, and gets an error. If they pull you over, they could ask to look under your hood for the light emitters. Sure you can say it's parking sensor, but you will have to fight it in court.

If you are dead set on getting a "parking sensor", the Antilaser G9 is currently rated one of the best. If price is an issue, Blinder M27 works fine too. You should also consider a radar and laser detector. The Valentine 1 is very popular, and so is the Escort Passport line.



THey just pull you over and issue a VI. They don't even go looking for it.

Gone through this with many customers.

TypeRNammer 05-20-2011 03:08 PM

Any good deals for the escort 9500ix?
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Cman333 05-20-2011 07:54 PM

If there's enough interest I'm sure I could arrange some sort of group buy.

But again, please don't use these as an excuse to drive wrecklessly.



I had a customer with a new M3 (back in 2003), we put in the bumper mount radar/laser detector thinking it was a cop detector. Within 2 hours he got a ticket and game back bitching about it not working. We ended up putting in a laser shifter a few days later. He ended up getting ANOTHER ticket for a VI.


Some people just have to learn the hard way.

Cman333 05-20-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DHP 1 (Post 7441034)
how many people actually got harrassed by having the detector on their dash

I've never been pulled over purposely for it. Usually get hassled at roadblocks about it before when I used to leave it on the window.

zulutango 05-20-2011 08:13 PM

BMR 32 Coupe, you are not correct when you say.."for example, if you're accelerating up to 70 km/h, and have a laser shone at you as youre accelerating, you'll have a bit of time to react to this signal and stop accelerating. of course, if you're accelerating fast, youll have even less reaction time."

The Laser unit takes 60 distance measurements between your vehicle and the Laser unit in 1/3 of a second. It is not humanly possible to get a reading, react and slow down in 1/3 of a second.

Laser jammers/shifters/garage door openers whatever, are all illegal and you can be charged under the criminal code for obstruction and the unit will be seized as evidence. Laser and Radar detectors are legal in BC but not in several other provinces and US states.
Obstructing Police
It is a crime in Canada to resist or intentionally obstruct a police officer in the lawful execution of his duty.

What is the definition of “obstruction”?
The definition of "obstruction" that has generally been applied by the court occurs when a person makes it more difficult for the police to carry out their duties. It is generally not an defence to argue that the police were eventually able to carry out their duties despite the attempt to obstruct them from doing so.

What does the Crown Attorney need to prove to show a person obstructed the police?
The Crown must first prove that there was an obstructing of a police officer. They must also prove that the police officer was acting pursuant to a lawful purpose. Next the Crown must prove that the obstructing affected the officer in the execution of a duty that he was then executing, and lastly they must prove that the person who obstructed the officer did so intentionally.


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crazyazn 05-22-2011 11:32 AM

in for the radar detector GB lol

TypeRNammer 05-22-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyazn (Post 7443520)
in for the radar detector GB lol

If the price is right lol.

currently eBay sells them for 500 USD shipped to the states before taxes.
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JordanLee 05-22-2011 08:40 PM

I swear by my 9500ix but it is common sense to just go with the traffic around you. It's alerted me to KA band radar countless times up ahead and sometimes ghost cars leave them on on the highway.

Video of how and what happens when you use a Blinder M27 system paired with a 9500ix


My video I took of a KA trap on UBC highway.


temp55 05-22-2011 09:43 PM

Get the valentine one!

Avery 05-25-2011 05:54 PM

Valentine One , i haven't got a ticket in over a year since i got it and previously i have had several...

JordanLee 05-26-2011 03:56 PM

The thing with the V1 is that because theres no GPS you get a ton of K band falses due to door openers etc. Atleast the 9500ix can mute/lockout falses, it even learns them as you drive by it 3 consecutive times. In a rural city a V1 would be great with a lot of highway driving but commuting in the lower mainland and city a lot will yield quite a few falses.

GG 05-26-2011 04:11 PM

Just got my 9500ix and im absolutely loving it, it has redeem itself for the past 3 weeks already.


Definitely worth it especially with the new gay ass law




However do you guys mount near the bottom of the windshield? or ...?


at first i mounted on the bottom, however i just got it hardwired and i put it just a little bit below the rear view mirror.


Will that affect the signal strength? In the manual all it states is that the detector needs a clear view of the sky in order for the GPS TO WORK, doesnt say anything about obstructing the laser beam

urban.boi 05-26-2011 05:39 PM

I've been using the 9500ix for 4 years now, saved me couple of times and numerous times down in the States. But lately beginning to notice that if newer cars are equipped with side assist / adaptive cruise controls that my K band reading starts going off.
Maybe it's time for me to upgrade to the redline or passport iQ.

DHP 1 05-26-2011 05:51 PM

^

i dont think upgrading to redline will do any good, other than going off like crazy driving in the city.


Remember 9500ix is 2 miles range, while redline is 3 miles range. Furthest radar detector ever made. Unless you live down in the states, our hwy is not really a hwy compare to US.

Cman333 05-26-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeRNammer (Post 7441432)
Any good deals for the escort 9500ix?
Posted via RS Mobile

Not much discount on this stuff. Probably around $<499. Not really anything huge.

MSRP $599CAD, $499 USD

Currently at Visions for $550.


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