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			im thinking about getting a golf TDI.Anybody had experience with it?
 Feedback would be good.
 exterior, interior, reliability, worth the money?
 something in that price range would u get something else?
 
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			cant go wrong however if your spending that much i would just get the mk6 jetta, the price difference is not that much and you get the same shit plus more.
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					Originally Posted by Soltaaa  cant go wrong however if your spending that much i would just get the mk6 jetta, the price difference is not that much and you get the same shit plus more. |  except in a Golf you'll get much better build materials. Compare the two side by side yes the Jetta is better value. But for some of us ... just can't look past the cheap plastics       |   |   |   |      |  06-13-2011, 09:38 PM | #4 |   | Need my Daily Fix of RS 
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			Great for highway driving, excellent fuel economy.  Excellent build quality, the Jetta doesn't come close.  A $600 chip will give you 220hp and 296lb/ft of torque.  But if your driving is more city oriented I'll save the money and get the 2.5 as it costs considerably less.  Also if a TDI engine doesn't get up to highway speed regularly the intake manifold may be clogged, do a search on the issue and you'll see what I mean.
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					Originally Posted by !Aznboi128  except in a Golf you'll get much better build materials. Compare the two side by side yes the Jetta is better value. But for some of us ... just can't look past the cheap plastics    |  dislike the guages in the jetta...., on the other hand, the the golf guages are gangster    |   |   |   |      |  06-14-2011, 08:33 AM | #6 |   | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie 
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					Originally Posted by Toast  Great for highway driving, excellent fuel economy.  Excellent build quality, the Jetta doesn't come close.  A $600 chip will give you 220hp and 296lb/ft of torque.  But if your driving is more city oriented I'll save the money and get the 2.5 as it costs considerably less.  Also if a TDI engine doesn't get up to highway speed regularly the intake manifold may be clogged, do a search on the issue and you'll see what I mean. |  Are you sure those power figures are for the TDI?  If so, that's impressive.  
Does the clogged intake manifold problem still occur if you mostly drive in the city, but wind it out once in a while?
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			IMO the passat from the states is the best deal, brand new with the 2.5 which is more than enough power for $20k base already has dual zone climate control, bluetooth, etc. Don't forget our exchange rate, although the prices aren't out yet for canadian passats I don't think.
 
 The tdi has been pretty reliable for my uncle who got both the mk4 and mk5 jetta tdi, also the resale value on these cars are really good. Be prepared to wait a while to get one though. TBH you can't go wrong with any of the engines they offer, the 2.5 is silky smooth and more than enough power, and the 2.0T is legendary lol.
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					Originally Posted by Mancini  Are you sure those power figures are for the TDI?  If so, that's impressive.
 Does the clogged intake manifold problem still occur if you mostly drive in the city, but wind it out once in a while?
 |  Iirc Unitronic makes the chip, contact PG Performance for more details.  Right after having the car chipped, on my first drive home,    
If your "once in a while" is at least once a week you should be fine.  Also the DSG transmission is impressive.  And be prepared to wait for the car (my order took about 4 months to arrive, factory order).
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			Copied from their website: 180HP / 295LB-TQ - $550
 That's still an unbelievable combination of performance, fuel economy and price.  Do want.
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					Originally Posted by !Aznboi128  except in a Golf you'll get much better build materials. Compare the two side by side yes the Jetta is better value. But for some of us ... just can't look past the cheap plastics  |  That's a GTI interior.  Not a TDI interior.  
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					Originally Posted by Mancini  Copied from their website: 180HP / 295LB-TQ - $550
 That's still an unbelievable combination of performance, fuel economy and price.  Do want.
 |  You might be right, if so I stand corrected.  But the increase in torque is what really makes the car    
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			the jetta's interior isnt THAT much cheaper quality than the golf...more or less the same.  
imo the jetta looks wayy better and you get more bang for your buck for only 2-3g difference and its roomier and easier too sell  
here is a good one.  http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rd...418997832.html 
with 0k...not 100 not 1000 not 3000  
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			If you look at the new jetta, they actually cut a lot of corners to lower the price to compete with the lower price range vehicles like the fit, yaris, etc.  Materials are cut around the engine bay like battery tray, engine covers, spare tire insulation, covers for various places in the trunk.  
 The most important difference between the mk5 and mk6 jetta is the rear suspension set up.  The mk6 jetta does not have a multi-link rear suspension like the old one did.  However the mk6 Golf does retain the mult-link set up.
 
 Interior as well material on the dash is much better than the jetta.
 
 Secondly definitely get the TDI over the 2.5 engine.  Base price to TDI price is a huge increase at first, but in terms of fuel economy there is a substantial difference.  TDI per tank of 55L ~ 800-1000 km whereas the same 55L in the 2.5 5 cyclinder gets a measly 400-500 km.  The price of diesel is cheaper than gasoline in the lower mainland as well.
 The 2.5L is harsh and undefined compared to the TDI and 2.0T, which both has received an update to "TSI" based in 2009+.  The 2.5L has been the same one since 2004~2005.  No vw fan/tech really recommends it as it makes less power, less economical and more harsh than any of its counterpart alternatives.
 
 I organized a mk5/mk6 dyno day last year at evolution. There was two 2.5L rabbit, were automatic, one being 2006 model and one being 2008 model.  I understand there are 2 versions of the 2.5L .. one made 150hp and one made 170hp. One had bolt ons (heads/exhaust/intake) with a chipped ecu ~ under 160whp.  the newer 2.5L made under 150whp.  Whereas the new TSI based TDI can get 200 bhp+ and almost 300btq using a revo software for $500 ... a difference of 50 hp from stock ... that's $10 for 1 hp .... best bang for the buck
 
 Last of all .. you can't get the DSG in the 2.5L which means you're left with a 5 speed automatic slushbox.  The 5 speed is really terrible as it's not smooth nor is it have any sporting potentials.
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					Originally Posted by Soltaaa  the jetta's interior isnt THAT much cheaper quality than the golf...more or less the same.  
imo the jetta looks wayy better and you get more bang for your buck for only 2-3g difference and its roomier and easier too sell  
here is a good one.  http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rd...418997832.html 
with 0k...not 100 not 1000 not 3000  
oh and if your into modding then...      |  notice how the rear wheel is pushed forward?   
that's the rear trailing arm suspension for you.   
I like the new Jetta, but i struggle with how my mk4 had better interior materials then it.
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			If you're buying new, don't go to cowell or clarkdale.  Go to Goldkey for the best price.  
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					Originally Posted by !Aznboi128  notice how the rear wheel is pushed forward? 
 that's the rear trailing arm suspension for you.
 
 
 I like the new Jetta, but i struggle with how my mk4 had better interior materials then it.
 |  im a german fan boy so i love everything german    and the only model of jetta that was a really really big disapointment was the base model ( 2.0L ) thats absolute shit, i drove one to get gas at the end of my shift and when i was done and parked it. I sat in my car and drove off, i felt like kissing my steering wheel....   Quote:   | 
					Originally Posted by vdub604  If you're buying new, don't go to cowell or clarkdale.  Go to Goldkey for the best price.  
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 |  OR come see a salesman by the name of "Pork chop" at maple ridge vdub, hes super nice and i will make sure he gives you a dope price.
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					Originally Posted by vdub604   The 2.5L has been the same one since 2004~2005.  No vw fan/tech really recommends it as it makes less power, less economical and more harsh than any of its counterpart alternatives.  
 The 5 speed is really terrible as it's not smooth nor is it have any sporting potentials.
 |  Your comments on the 2.5 surprise me.  I rented a 2010 earlier this year, 2.5, AT.  I put 1000 km's on it.  
The engine was plenty powerful, broad torque, and got great mileage.  I filled up after 600 km of highway driving and it would probably do another 100 km's before running dry.  That is pretty good for a 55L tank.  It also had a surpisingly sporty burble for an inline - perhaps that's the roughness you're referencing.  
I agree about the automatic.  No sporting potential.
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			The inline-5 configuration is what makes it sound sporty. It's half of a Gallardo V10, don't you know? :wink: 
 The 2.5 is a little rough compared to the other two, IMO, and not very impressive. Get the TDI if you can - it's an awesome little gem.
 
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			i dropped by clarkdale on main street. not the best customer service i had. Especially when there was a bunch of workers in there not doing anything   
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					Originally Posted by Mancini  Your comments on the 2.5 surprise me.  I rented a 2010 earlier this year, 2.5, AT.  I put 1000 km's on it.
 The engine was plenty powerful, broad torque, and got great mileage.  I filled up after 600 km of highway driving and it would probably do another 100 km's before running dry.  That is pretty good for a 55L tank.  It also had a surpisingly sporty burble for an inline - perhaps that's the roughness you're referencing.
 
 I agree about the automatic.  No sporting potential.
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Yeah it was surprising to me too ... I had it as a loaner when my gti went in to the shop.  City driving is where it really sinks down below the other two motors.  It just has this coarse feeling that I didn't expect from a relatively big motor.  It feels like it gets out of puff, which is no good considering its not a scrawny motor.    
Highway driving the 2.0t gets over 700km for sure.  I went on a seattle cruise for a 6 hour drive straight highway, on tuned software passing people and slowing then passing and i got over 650km.  Conservative driving will do it a lot more justice.
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			If you're accustomed to a chipped gti any NA 2.5 is going to feel sluggish and your smaller motor is going to have less vibration.  I think VW really struck a great balance between performance, mileage and dynamics with the 2.0T that is not possible in a naturally aspirated design.
 I've owned three different 2.5's and I think VW's engine is in the ballpark.
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			so i guess its a thumbs up for 2.0 tdi
		 
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					Originally Posted by n3w8ie-aler  so i guess its a thumbs up for 2.0 tdi |  Cool.  If you get one post your impressions.
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