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06-14-2011, 08:43 PM
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I have no problem with new canucks fan
but when you don't know shit about hockey and start talking shit about players after one game you need to shut the fuck up
take some time to learn the sport and things about it before you start judging anything about the canucks or hockey in general
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06-14-2011, 08:46 PM
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since when did revscene become cdc?
I thought only post like these could only be found on cdc.  :
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06-14-2011, 08:48 PM
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Most people who complain about bandwagoners don't even know the real meaning of it...When people say bandwagoners comment on Lou, or ask for trades, or shit talk players when they lose...that has NOTHING to do with bandwagoning....UNLESS the majority of people are doing it. Bandwagoning is when someone does something, BECAUSE everyone else is doing it. Not understanding the game and forming an opinion on the outcome of a game has NOTHING to do with bangwagoning.
I agree with a few other people that Canucks fan's are possessive. It seems like EVERYONE complains about bandwagoners and since everyone is doing that, who's left to actually BE a bandwagoner? In the end, you guys are true Canucks fans right?? You want what's best for the organization? Well guess what, "bandwagoners" put millions and millions of dollars into the pockets of the Canucks organization! All those people buying Canucks flags at the 2nd and 3rd rounds and t-shirts and jerseys are all creating revenue that otherwise wouldn't have been there. After all, TRUE fans have already bought their gear, right?
Also note, whether someone is a true fan or a fake fan, that has NO outcome on the actual game. The Canucks will win when they are ready and prepared for their games and will lose when they are not. It's not based on who is cheering for them and who is not. They don't win because of true fans or because of fake fans. It's irrelevant to the actual outcome of the game, so why does it matter who's true and who's not?
Lastly, the point made about blaming Lou for every loss does piss me off to. The goalie in my OPINION, is the last resort on the team. Before a goalie even comes into play, a whole bunch of people have to mess up...Forwards, defense-men and THEN the goalie...You can't expect Lou to carry the entire team...He does his job, the rest of the team has to do theirs to. Also, if Lou gets X amount of shots on him, statistically, he is BOUND to let one in...It's simple logistics. No one can expect him to save EVERY single shot on net. Then again, anyone who believes that what I am saying has no merit, they're welcome to..It's an opinion.
That being said, GO CANUCKS GO!
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06-14-2011, 08:55 PM
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I personally have no problem with people starting to watch hockey now, but when they make dumbass comments like "CANUCKS FCKING SUCK!" after a loss and THEN say "go canucks go!" after a win, just pisses me the fuck off.
Just like when I was at CBC Plaza on Monday. These dumbasses behind me wouldn't shut up. Just shut the fuck up and let me watch the damn game. I don't need to know EVERY play/analysis that is going on.
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06-14-2011, 09:05 PM
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I'm a diehard Canucks fan and have been watching hockey since I was 5. Personally I don't have anything against bandwagon jumpers because in the end support is support. What I do hate are the bandwagon jumpers who think just because they have listened to what people said on 1040 or researched shiet on the internet that they are suddenly experts and actually know what the fuck they are talking about. I also hate how some people who are clearly bandwagon jumpers do not admit to it. Hey it's ok if you are just own up to it I don't care.
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06-14-2011, 09:09 PM
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my question for you people: how do you know the person saying stupid shit (eg, luo sucks, sedins needs another one to make triplets, etc) has been a die-hard 94+ canucks veteran fan, or a 2 week old fan? YOU DON'T! the only thing you're doing is making an ASSUMPTION
lastly, people are entitled to whatever opinion they want. what if don cherry, hockey world's superseding opinion maker, said luo sucks? would that make him a bandwagoner?
every rebuttal made in this thread involves defining a bandwagoner as a person who has an APPARENTLY shitty or baseless opinion on the canucks.
last time i checked, a bandwagoner is a person who follows the crowd, in the case of the canucks acquiring their standing in the playoffs, a person who becomes more interested in the canucks during playoff season.
my point is stop classifying anyone who has an opinion that's different than yours as a bandwagoner. | |
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06-14-2011, 09:16 PM
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I have a friend who is worse. Hes a superfan who is an apologist. He'll blame everything on the refs, the other teams, hell.. even the ice.
He won't accept that Luongo has bad nights or perhaps ISN'T the best goalie in the history of the NHL. He won't look at our team from an objective point of view and realize that "Yeah, we're capable of losing games for legitimate reasons" and "Maybe we have some problems we need to iron out"
To me, he gives fans a bad name. Now, I'll admit that I've only been watching seriously since 2005 and don't know the game inside out. I don't know the stats of every player to lay stick to ice but I'll be watching regular season games and playoff games and if we get knocked out early I'll pick another team to get behind.
Apparently that makes me a "traitor". Well, that and the fact that I think that Kippersoff is a goddamned good goalie who deserves a better franchise.
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06-14-2011, 09:38 PM
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#33 | | What hasn't Killed me, has made me more tolerant of RS!
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Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe  my question for you people: how do you know the person saying stupid shit (eg, luo sucks, sedins needs another one to make triplets, etc) has been a die-hard 94+ canucks veteran fan, or a 2 week old fan? YOU DON'T! the only thing you're doing is making an ASSUMPTION
lastly, people are entitled to whatever opinion they want. what if don cherry, hockey world's superseding opinion maker, said luo sucks? would that make him a bandwagoner?
every rebuttal made in this thread involves defining a bandwagoner as a person who has an APPARENTLY shitty or baseless opinion on the canucks.
last time i checked, a bandwagoner is a person who follows the crowd, in the case of the canucks acquiring their standing in the playoffs, a person who becomes more interested in the canucks during playoff season.
my point is stop classifying anyone who has an opinion that's different than yours as a bandwagoner. | Stop trying to defend your statement. I know a bandwagoner when I see one. Here's an example. A while ago, back to the Chicago series, he was talking about how we would beat Chicago easily. Every day I saw him in class he would say "We're going to stomp Chicago, I hate Toews, he's a whiner."
That's cool, he thinks we're going to beat Chicago. Nothing wrong, I thought the same thing. I find Toews a really good player but he may not like him. That's cool too. Then he talks about Byfuglien being the best D man he's ever seen so I throw out the name Lidstrom for this era. He asks me who's Lidstrom and what position he plays.
So pause there. Anyone who watches hockey should know who Lidstrom is. The thing I disliked was how he was so sure of his opinions. But hey, if he doesn't know who Lidstrom is but still cheers for the Nucks, that's cool too. But when we go on that 3 game losing streak against Chicago... he claims we lost and says we have no chance of coming back. He states that the Canucks suck. Guess what, Canucks win and now he's back cheering on saying we'll crush whoever is in the way of the Canucks.
I think it's these kind of fans that piss off people.
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06-14-2011, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by oldcracker Stop trying to defend your statement. I know a bandwagoner when I see one. Here's an example. A while ago, back to the Chicago series, he was talking about how we would beat Chicago easily. Every day I saw him in class he would say "We're going to stomp Chicago, I hate Toews, he's a whiner."
That's cool, he thinks we're going to beat Chicago. Nothing wrong, I thought the same thing. I find Toews a really good player but he may not like him. That's cool too. Then he talks about Byfuglien being the best D man he's ever seen so I throw out the name Lidstrom for this era. He asks me who's Lidstrom and what position he plays.
So pause there. Anyone who watches hockey should know who Lidstrom is. The thing I disliked was how he was so sure of his opinions. But hey, if he doesn't know who Lidstrom is but still cheers for the Nucks, that's cool too. But when we go on that 3 game losing streak against Chicago... he claims we lost and says we have no chance of coming back. He states that the Canucks suck. Guess what, Canucks win and now he's back cheering on saying we'll crush whoever is in the way of the Canucks.
I think it's these kind of fans that piss off people. | You didn't even read what i wrote. See, there's a guy who has a baseless opinion and is a bandwagoner. But what if he's a bandwagoner but kept his mouth shut, would you still hate him? If not, then why are you hating on bandwagoners?
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06-14-2011, 09:49 PM
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Holy Fuck, just go bother the hookers not us on revscene.
You're getting fucking annoying.
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06-14-2011, 09:53 PM
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He's surpassed Larry Chu level already. If he keeps this up he might become greater than :noob:
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06-14-2011, 09:57 PM
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#37 | | What hasn't Killed me, has made me more tolerant of RS!
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Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe You didn't even read what i wrote. See, there's a guy who has a baseless opinion and is a bandwagoner. But what if he's a bandwagoner but kept his mouth shut, would you still hate him? If not, then why are you hating on bandwagoners?
If I had a valid point, and admit to being a bandwagoner, then what? | If a bandwagoner kept his mouth shut, no one would really know he was a bandwagoner. The point is, bandwagoners are annoying when they speak. You can like a team when they win and hate a team when they lose as long as you keep your mouth shut. That's fine. No one cares.
If you had a valid point, and you admit to being a bandwagoner, I doubt real fans would care. They'd probably accept what you said. Valid points are good, it's the dumb inexperienced comments that are annoying.
You don't seem to understand what makes a bandwagoner annoying. If a bandwagoner is making valid points, there's nothing wrong. It's the qualities of the person that make one a bandwagoner
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06-14-2011, 09:59 PM
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#38 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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06-14-2011, 10:25 PM
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#39 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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Originally Posted by !YaoShi The clause in front of the comma already discredits anything you say afterwards. Its like listening to fox news. | really? come on. points = win in any sport. are u saying that any olympic event u watched, u know all the rules of that sport? u only watched the people/teams that u followed since their debut, and didnt watch just for the sake of cheering for your fellow canadians/home teams?
the 'true' canucks fans are so fucking clingy. they get so butt hurt when someone says, so and so sucks dick when they are losing.
instead of defending the statemenet ,they get all mad inside and come on revscene and lash out online.
its like saying, if u never owned a playstation 1,2, u shouldnt get a playstation 3. u dont know the basics of the Dpad and ○□△X how the system works fuck off. LOL.
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06-14-2011, 10:38 PM
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#40 | | I STILL don't get it
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Originally Posted by Tachycardia! I have a friend who is worse. Hes a superfan who is an apologist. He'll blame everything on the refs, the other teams, hell.. even the ice.
He won't accept that Luongo has bad nights or perhaps ISN'T the best goalie in the history of the NHL. He won't look at our team from an objective point of view and realize that "Yeah, we're capable of losing games for legitimate reasons" and "Maybe we have some problems we need to iron out"
To me, he gives fans a bad name. Now, I'll admit that I've only been watching seriously since 2005 and don't know the game inside out. I don't know the stats of every player to lay stick to ice but I'll be watching regular season games and playoff games and if we get knocked out early I'll pick another team to get behind.
Apparently that makes me a "traitor". Well, that and the fact that I think that Kippersoff is a goddamned good goalie who deserves a better franchise. | lol ya I think those superfans may actually be worse than the guys that hop on and off every win/loss. I have this one friend he is just completely pro Vancouver and that's it. Like I've said in almost every hockey related post I'm a sharks fan and when we lost the series I had no issue giving credit when credit was due, the Canucks were the better team in the series but he was going on and on about how Canucks were dominating the sharks in game 5, if you guys recall that went to double ot with Bieksa scoring a goal that I'm sure everyone will remember for a long time. I remember arguing him at worst it was an evenly played game, I personally felt like the Sharks played better, they had 56 shots on net and I felt like they had more scoring chances but he wasn't hearing it, okay fine. Then Canucks lose game 3 to Boston 8-1, and hes on facebook making posts like Tim Thomas is terrible just very lucky saves blah blah and how Canucks were actually the better team because they outshot them 41-38 lol, like how quickly things change now a 3 shot advantage gives him the entitlement that Canucks were the better team that game. Its just like come on be realistic, give some credit when credit is due. Its like they are incapable of accepting that in the NHL there are actually other good teams in existence lol.
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06-14-2011, 10:42 PM
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I don't why people get so upset over "band wagoners". Regardless, they are Canucks fans. Not die hard Canucks fans but fans nonetheless. Some people don't have the luxury to watch all the games, buy Canucks gear or remember player number and names. It doesn't mean they aren't fans. Calling out band wagoners doesn't make you any better.
Its normal for people to be jumping on and off the bandwagon. Watching hockey is pure entertainment. You get excited or upset. Emotions are at their extremes and people can sometimes react abnormal. You say Canucks are going to win the cup today but the next day they are going to lose the cup. In the end people will still watch their team play.
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06-14-2011, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by oldcracker I'll tell you why real fans hate bandwagoners.
First off, it's because of how they talk when Canucks are being discussed. They talk like they know everything but once something that is common knowledge to most real fans is brought up, they are unaware and then it's quite hilarious.
Secondly, real fans don't go blaming players after each loss and asking for trades. Use the Canucks forum as an example, it's filled with bandwagoners. After every loss, the servers go down because tons of fans are asking for trades/call ups and etc. Fans that expect Canucks to go 82-0 in the season and then 16-0 in the playoffs are just plain dumb. Even the best teams lose once in a while but fans don't seem to understand this.
Thirdly, the amount of blame on Luongo shows how much you don't understand the game. Most of the time, the goals are a result of terrible defensive coverage. Bandwagoners will just blame Luongo because he's the easiest guy to blame. He's the goalie. Anyone with any sense of how the game works knows that the defense was just poor. However, I will admit Luongo had a terrible game against Boston yesterday.
If you want to know why real fans are hate bandwagoners, listen to Team 1040 after a loss. People that call in are ridiculously ignorant. Who suggests Schneider to start game 7 over Luongo? Are you serious? The only reason we're in the SCF is because of Luongo. If it wasn't for his save on Patrick Sharp in game 7 of OT, we wouldn't even be here. This is Luongo's team, not the rookie's. Such dumb suggestions are one of the few reasons as to why real fans hate bandwagoners.
P.S - When the Nucks are losing, bandwagoners or people who weren't fans would say, why are you watching the Nucks? They suck.
Well why are you all watching now? Hypocrites. | I did think that they should've started Schneider in Game6 though. Nothing with hatred towards Luongo. I actually love him, he's a great goaltender, he has things to show for, if he wasn't good he would not be in the Olympics. But it's just I feel that Boston is not his place to play in, it shows for in Game3. You can say it's the defense but as a goaltender myself it my certain opinion Luongo made quite a bit of mistakes. I am in no position to judge Luongo's play cuz if not I'd be playing in the Canucks not him, there's a reason he's playing in the NHL and for the Canucks and not me, but as a professional he is, there were unprofessional plays he made that made me feel starting Schneider in Game 6 was reasonable. If AV really doesn't like it, hey, he could always put Luongo back in if anything.
But I agree with you that people suggesting starting Schneider in Game 7 is retarded. Luongo has been terrific at Rogers Arena.
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06-14-2011, 11:05 PM
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imo the canucks are the biggest reason why so many bandwagoners exist in vancouver. they are inconsistent as fuck and they generate the criticsm that they get. A team like Boston probably has less bandwagoners becasue they are consistent in their game. If vancouver only had die hard fans rooting for the team rooting no matter how bad they played, the canucks might not be playing as hard as they are right now. For a team getting paid in the millions to play a sport, they deserve to have 'fans' ready to jump ship if they're not playing as they should.
When i went to the 8-1 game at rogers arena, i wasn't surprised at all when ppl started leaving after the 5th goal. But i was pretty surpirsed at some of the die hard fans yelling for bandwagoners to gtfo. If they're playing that bad, people have a right to leave. i dont have a problem admitting im a bandwagoner because i am one, but i keep to myself. this anti-bandwagoner stuff is pretty stupid imo because i find both sides to be pretty obnoxious at times.
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06-14-2011, 11:13 PM
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I don't know if these are bandwagoners or not but I hate people who discuss about the game like they know their shit, like people saying "we all know Canucks suck in 3rd period" but wait, what? Canucks are usually stronger in the 3rd period no? Lol.
Or people who go take up space at venues/bars for the game like BP(or VP now) or Sharks Club or where ever but they aren't paying attention to the game. I've seen people at ManU bar in HongKong take up seats during Canuck games and what did I see them doing all game? They were playing with their phones. If you aren't watching the game gtfo and don't take up space for people who actually would appcreciate the spot. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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06-14-2011, 11:24 PM
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#45 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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Originally Posted by elkayem I don't know if these are bandwagoners or not but I hate people who discuss about the game like they know their shit, like people saying "we all know Canucks suck in 3rd period" but wait, what? Canucks are usually stronger in the 3rd period no? Lol.
Or people who go take up space at venues/bars for the game like BP(or VP now) or Sharks Club or where ever but they aren't paying attention to the game. I've seen people at ManU bar in HongKong take up seats during Canuck games and what did I see them doing all game? They were playing with their phones. If you aren't watching the game gtfo and don't take up space for people who actually would appcreciate the spot. Posted via RS Mobile | This is ridiculous. Although these places are private business, they're open to the PUBLIC!...They're not reserved for "Canucks fans only." Why is it that you have to dictate how people watch the game? Why is it wrong for people to go out to enjoy the game socially? Who decides that your way of watching the game is "better" than someone else's...Are you implying that in order to be a "true fan," you must give your undivided attention to the game?
Someone else might argue if you were a true fan, you would've made an effort to get to the venue that you wanted to watch the game at earlier than those "Bandwagoners"....
Anyways, this is so stupid. LOL Why the FUCK are we talking about our FANS when we should be talking about our team that is gonna win a fucking cup tomorrow!!
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06-15-2011, 12:01 AM
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06-15-2011, 12:03 AM
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Hmm did I not say I'm not implying about anything related to being truefans or bandwagon? This is plainly just a rant from me totally irrelevant to being a truefan or not. I actually did get spots actually so I had no problem with that but if you're not gonna watch the game why come here at 8am in the morning and take up space for other people who wants to watch it? (In HK the games here starts 8am) Posted via RS Mobile | |
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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ It's ok everyone.....
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lolbandwagoners...my friend told me that someone asked the sales rep if they could return the jersey if the canucks don't win the series..
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