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06-24-2011, 08:27 AM
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I believe they get strike pay or some kind of assistance through the union but it's really not enough to support a family, or heck, even just yourself.
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06-24-2011, 08:34 AM
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I'm not sure if anyone has brought this up but i'm not trolling thru this entire thread to make sure.
Canada post has been complaining mail volume is down and they are short of money but did you know they are spending $1.3 Billion on a new facility out by the airport. I'm no postal worker but for a company complaining about loosing money and mail volume what's the point of spending more money on new infrastructure that they don't need.
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06-24-2011, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by anti_rice  I'm not sure if anyone has brought this up but i'm not trolling thru this entire thread to make sure.
Canada post has been complaining mail volume is down and they are short of money but did you know they are spending $1.3 Billion on a new facility out by the airport. I'm no postal worker but for a company complaining about loosing money and mail volume what's the point of spending more money on new infrastructure that they don't need. | Maybe it will make them more efficient resulting in saving money in the long run. Companies don't think in short run terms and if they do, they never make it to long run anyways.
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06-24-2011, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by anti_rice I'm not sure if anyone has brought this up but i'm not trolling thru this entire thread to make sure.
Canada post has been complaining mail volume is down and they are short of money but did you know they are spending $1.3 Billion on a new facility out by the airport. I'm no postal worker but for a company complaining about loosing money and mail volume what's the point of spending more money on new infrastructure that they don't need. | Quote:
Originally Posted by JKam Maybe it will make them more efficient resulting in saving money in the long run. Companies don't think in short run terms and if they do, they never make it to long run anyways. | ^ this.
CPC has been making huge investments in infrastructure to modernize and automate facilities to save costs down the road. The plan is to have employees leave through attrition and not replace them, instead automate or eliminate their job.
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06-24-2011, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes I believe they get strike pay or some kind of assistance through the union but it's really not enough to support a family, or heck, even just yourself. | I was talking to my best friend's dad about the strike as he is a retired Canada Post worker. He mentioned that although strike pay is minimal, he would just make up loss in income in the time following the strike as they would get OT to catch up on all the backed up mail.
He mentioned that he actually enjoyed strike time! lol.
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06-24-2011, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by HachiSix Do they get any kind of pay through the Union or otherwise in this situation? | Quote:
Originally Posted by bcrdukes I believe they get strike pay or some kind of assistance through the union but it's really not enough to support a family, or heck, even just yourself. | Its ~$50/day, and most unions state you have to be on the picket lines to receive it.
For every 1 week they are striking/locked out, they lose ~2% of their salary. Thus if they are asking for 3% increase for each of 4 years, it only takes 6 weeks (6 x 2% == 4 x 3% for the math challenged) of strikes or lockout to render all gains moot.
This is why striking for money is dumb. Strike for job security or benefits.
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06-24-2011, 08:54 AM
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strike pay is about 175 dollars if you were to picket 5 consecutive days. which works to about 35 bucks a day? give or take.
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06-24-2011, 10:07 AM
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Canada Post mgmt are a bunch of assholes, locking out the workers to force the government hand.
Instead of wasting everyones time they should be legislating Canada Post to lift the lockout and allow the workers to work under the old contract while negotiations take place.
The government should not be used a backhanded negotiation tactic for a crown corporations mgmt.
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06-24-2011, 10:17 AM
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honestly the executive members are fucking retarded, they're saying businesses are suffering blah blah blah which was caused by a lockout, but they are unanswerring the question from the NDP of "why did you put a lockout then?", fricking ridiculous this argument is going nowhere with the executives denying things that they did..
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06-24-2011, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes I believe they get strike pay or some kind of assistance through the union but it's really not enough to support a family, or heck, even just yourself. | You get paid $175 a week picketing.
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06-24-2011, 10:56 AM
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Canada Post should be privatized!
We will have an efficient mail delivery system without hitches.
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06-24-2011, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tiger_handheld Canada Post should be privatized!
We will have an efficient mail delivery system without hitches. | LOL, if it's privatized they would want more labor from workers. More people will be fired, and if you don't know already they're introducing a robot to shuffle mail, meaning people just go to work pick up the mail from the robot, and work for longer periods = other people getting laid off, and others spending more others doing work. If they privatize it they will need more money to keep the company going and in order to do that they'll fire some workers, etc..
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06-24-2011, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tiger_handheld Canada Post should be privatized!
We will have an efficient mail delivery system without hitches. | Great, then we'll have retarded customs/border duties when shipping from outside of Canada.
I've never had to pay customs/duties on anything shipped via USPS -> Canada post, nor had any problems. Yet when anything gets sent UPS or FedEx, I get a nice $15-$40 bullshit fee.
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06-24-2011, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tgill Canada Post mgmt are a bunch of assholes, locking out the workers to force the government hand.
Instead of wasting everyones time they should be legislating Canada Post to lift the lockout and allow the workers to work under the old contract while negotiations take place.
The government should not be used a backhanded negotiation tactic for a crown corporations mgmt. | Why are they assholes? The union started strikes to force CPCs hand, and it backfired with reduced volume and a lockout. It serves the union right for starting a war they couldn't win.
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06-24-2011, 01:34 PM
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^you're an idiot, they did rotating strikes so workers could still work, the management SHUT DOWN canada post and put it in a lockdown.. the union didn't have an intention of a lockout
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06-24-2011, 01:57 PM
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06-24-2011, 03:22 PM
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#142 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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Originally Posted by taylor192 Why are they assholes? The union started strikes to force CPCs hand, and it backfired with reduced volume and a lockout. It serves the union right for starting a war they couldn't win. | Management knew that if it locked out workers, the government would have no choice but to backhand the union and offer what it deemed a fair contract. A contract that is lesser than even what Canada Post just offered in its final hours. Also, lets not forget this is not just about wages.
When legal rotating strikes were taking place, my goddamn mail was being delivered. When management locked its workers out, my mail ceased being delivered.
Therefore, fuck Canada Post management.
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06-24-2011, 06:39 PM
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I'm so sick of this shit. JUST END THIS THING NOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THEIR PARCELS
The Union is greedy and wants more
Canada Post is greedy and don't want to give more
The Conservatives are doing what a majority government should be doing
The NDPs are being a bunch of morons by dragging out the inevitable
all this for what? so that regular Canadians have to suffer through someone else's employment contract dispute? FUCK THAT. It's not my problem so stop being a bunch of morons and deal with your differences at your own leisure time. Rotating strike is still a strike, and Canada Post is arrogant for locking the workers out. Both sides are at fault but DON'T DRAG ME INTO IT.
What a bunch of selfish people we're seeing here.... ME ME ME I want more more and more. 
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06-24-2011, 06:49 PM
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The only consolation is that those dumbasses in charge dont get their mail either.
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06-24-2011, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaKappa | listening to these morons just make my head spin. the NDP is making the Posties' working condition sound like the most dangerous and treacherous environment out there, and that they DESERVE good pay, DESERVE good pension, DESERVE this, DESERVE that. Why are postal workers so much more special than any other hardworking Canadian out there?
The longer this thing drags on the less I feel sympathetic of the Union and its members.
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06-24-2011, 09:22 PM
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can someone explain why NDP is delaying this bill?
what do they have to gain?
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06-24-2011, 09:31 PM
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06-24-2011, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaKappa ^you're an idiot, they did rotating strikes so workers could still work, the management SHUT DOWN canada post and put it in a lockdown.. the union didn't have an intention of a lockout | Don't call me an idiot when you're so retarded you don't even understand the word "strike". The union started the strikes to send a message, a lame message with rotating strikes that did nothing for their cause, and it backfired, so fuck them and fuck you.
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06-24-2011, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sexyaccord can someone explain why NDP is delaying this bill?
what do they have to gain? | The NDP is supported by unions. They must stand up to this or risk losing a lot of core support.
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06-24-2011, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tgill Management knew that if it locked out workers, the government would have no choice but to backhand the union and offer what it deemed a fair contract. A contract that is lesser than even what Canada Post just offered in its final hours. Also, lets not forget this is not just about wages.
When legal rotating strikes were taking place, my goddamn mail was being delivered. When management locked its workers out, my mail ceased being delivered.
Therefore, fuck Canada Post management. | No, fuck the union.
I'll put it into terms the retards here will understand. If you slap me in the face (threats to strike) then run around in circles to get away from me (rotating strikes) don't get upset when I knock you the fuck out (lockout) and kick you while you're down (Bill C-6).
The legal rotating strikes were to send a message, they just don't like the legal response. The lockout is legal, and what the Conservative government is doing is legal. You may not like it, the union may hate it, yet the union threw down the first challenge, and they are getting served.
As I said, don't start a war you cannot finish. The union was dumb to start this, and it will be ended, legally, once the motion eventually passes and becomes law.
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