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Old 10-21-2011, 05:48 PM   #7076
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Weber fined $2500, no suspension
Ohhh! $2500!!

A fine anywhere less than 5 digits for an pro athlete??

Not to mention Weber makes 7.5mil a year.



A $50,000 fine at the very least... might make him feel that itch.
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No, it makes sense.

Current CBA says $2500 is the maximum fine.

To cost a player any more money, you have to suspend him so he forfeits salary.

I think the Weber decision is correct. I didn't think it was a dirty play. He was obviously frustrated but still, it's just a penalty...not suspension worthy. Plus Weber doesn't have a dirty reputation so give him a warning and say "Next time..."
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lol, just read the Province proposed Luongo for Lecavalier

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would you guys do this? haha

HIT THE ROAD WITH THE CANUCKS!

Trip is $999 plus $150 in taxes haha

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Pretty $$ considering lower bowl tickets to Coyotes cost what, $20?

Our 2 game roadtrip in Januray will be $1500 taxes in for 2 people to watch both games in the low-lower bowl, 4 nights accomo, rental car the whole time, and food too.
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Schneider is starting again tomorrow. Considering how Lu is so sensitive to everything, its good that Schneider starts this afternoon game because Lu might not be able to adjust.
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For the lazy who wants the whole Gillis vs the Province thing in one shot. Written by PuckDaddy and VancouverSun contributor Harrison Mooney. But dont worry, its a neutral view on the situation. It just summarizes it.

Im curious what happened tonight at that Canucks Place charity event at Bayshore between the two LOL

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The Province, one of Vancouver's two major newspapers, raised eyebrows this morning when they published a news editorial that espoused a trade sending Roberto Luongo(notes) to the Tampa Bay Lightning for Vincent Lecavalier(notes).
Again, that's a news editorial, not a sports column. It appeared on page A20 and was attributed to the paper, as most news editorials are, as opposed to one writer in particular.
It was an odd vehicle for a trade proposal, especially one that was no better than something you'd see on a message board. It's a wonder The Province avoided "throwing in a second round pick to balance things out."
It bemused many, but it annoyed Vancouver Canucks' GM Mike Gillis, and this afternoon, the reigning GM of the Year unexpectedly called the Team 1040, Vancouver's local sports radio station, to say something about it.
After allowing the hosts to try to guess what he wants for about ten minutes -- ten minutes of fumbling, groping questions and uncomfortably dead air -- Gillis finally brings up the editorial:
I'm having a lot of trouble with this. I don't see where there's any accountability, I don't see where this merits an editorial. If they want to weigh in and run the Vancouver Canucks, come on down here and do it.
Down here, of course, being Rogers Arena. And this was Gillis's biggest beef, apparently. Because it wasn't attributed to one of the sports writers he sees every day (or anyone, for that matters), he wasn't quite sure who to get mad at:
If [Canucks beat writer] Jason Botchford wrote this and he was down here I could go up to him and talk to him about it. And find out why. This, there's no accountability here.
It's beyond presumptuous to think that they have a say in how we operate this team in this manner. And I don't like it.
But the saga didn't end there. An hour later, Wayne Moriarty, The Province's Editor-in-Chief, appeared on the same program with some choice words for Gillis.
In response to Gillis's accusation that the editorial lacked accountability, Moriarty pointed out that most news editorials aren't attributed to a particular person:
There are very few newspapers in the world that sign editorials. The general undestanding is that it's the view of the editorial board and in this case our editorial board is three to four people, depending on the issue.
But Moriarty also added that the Province had spoken with TC Carling, the Canucks' director of communications, earlier in the day, and that Gillis was being coy on the accountability issue anyway.
He was aware very early in the day that basically I was responsible as the editor for the paper. Mike was playing a little loose with the facts there. He knew who wrote it.
And then Moriarty introduced the underlying issue here, which is that he and Mike Gillis don't care much for one another:
The only other time I've ever met Mr. Gillis, I'll be quite honest, he was quite rude to me. [...] He couldn't even reach out and shake my hand.
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But this wasn't about Mike. If I was Mike, I'd be more concerned that 14,000 of his premium customers were booing his number one asset.
And some posturing:
Mike's discussion around being accountable and going down to the dressing room, I mean, give me Luongo's phone number, I'll read him the editorial. That's just machismo garbage, it makes no difference to me.
Moriarty has to be the first guy in quite some time to accuse the Canucks of "machismo garbage."
And finally, a comparison Gillis would hate:
I can remember when I met Mike, thinking to myself, it was just a chip off what we'd dealt with with Mr. [Brian] Burke the previous years.
Finally, the hosts of the program, sensing some hostility, asked if the news editorial would still have appeared if, say, The Province and the Canucks were better friends. "I think we have a good working relationship with the Canucks," Moriarty responded.
I'll take your word on that.
To make things even more amusing, both Moriarty and Gillis were slated to be at the same charity event Friday night. I'll update if there's a rumble.
Mike Gillis, on Luongo-for-Vinny news editorial:
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The Province, one of Vancouver's two major newspapers, raised eyebrows this morning when they published a news editorial that espoused a trade sending Roberto Luongo(notes) to the Tampa Bay Lightning for Vincent Lecavalier(notes).
Again, that's a news editorial, not a sports column. It appeared on page A20 and was attributed to the paper, as most news editorials are, as opposed to one writer in particular.
It was an odd vehicle for a trade proposal, especially one that was no better than something you'd see on a message board. It's a wonder The Province avoided "throwing in a second round pick to balance things out."
It bemused many, but it annoyed Vancouver Canucks' GM Mike Gillis, and this afternoon, the reigning GM of the Year unexpectedly called the Team 1040, Vancouver's local sports radio station, to say something about it.
After allowing the hosts to try to guess what he wants for about ten minutes -- ten minutes of fumbling, groping questions and uncomfortably dead air -- Gillis finally brings up the editorial:
I'm having a lot of trouble with this. I don't see where there's any accountability, I don't see where this merits an editorial. If they want to weigh in and run the Vancouver Canucks, come on down here and do it.
Down here, of course, being Rogers Arena. And this was Gillis's biggest beef, apparently. Because it wasn't attributed to one of the sports writers he sees every day (or anyone, for that matters), he wasn't quite sure who to get mad at:
If [Canucks beat writer] Jason Botchford wrote this and he was down here I could go up to him and talk to him about it. And find out why. This, there's no accountability here.
It's beyond presumptuous to think that they have a say in how we operate this team in this manner. And I don't like it.
But the saga didn't end there. An hour later, Wayne Moriarty, The Province's Editor-in-Chief, appeared on the same program with some choice words for Gillis.
In response to Gillis's accusation that the editorial lacked accountability, Moriarty pointed out that most news editorials aren't attributed to a particular person:
There are very few newspapers in the world that sign editorials. The general undestanding is that it's the view of the editorial board and in this case our editorial board is three to four people, depending on the issue.
But Moriarty also added that the Province had spoken with TC Carling, the Canucks' director of communications, earlier in the day, and that Gillis was being coy on the accountability issue anyway.
He was aware very early in the day that basically I was responsible as the editor for the paper. Mike was playing a little loose with the facts there. He knew who wrote it.
And then Moriarty introduced the underlying issue here, which is that he and Mike Gillis don't care much for one another:
The only other time I've ever met Mr. Gillis, I'll be quite honest, he was quite rude to me. [...] He couldn't even reach out and shake my hand.
And then, a little lovetap:
But this wasn't about Mike. If I was Mike, I'd be more concerned that 14,000 of his premium customers were booing his number one asset.
And some posturing:
Mike's discussion around being accountable and going down to the dressing room, I mean, give me Luongo's phone number, I'll read him the editorial. That's just machismo garbage, it makes no difference to me.
Moriarty has to be the first guy in quite some time to accuse the Canucks of "machismo garbage."
And finally, a comparison Gillis would hate:
I can remember when I met Mike, thinking to myself, it was just a chip off what we'd dealt with with Mr. [Brian] Burke the previous years.
Finally, the hosts of the program, sensing some hostility, asked if the news editorial would still have appeared if, say, The Province and the Canucks were better friends. "I think we have a good working relationship with the Canucks," Moriarty responded.
I'll take your word on that.
To make things even more amusing, both Moriarty and Gillis were slated to be at the same charity event Friday night. I'll update if there's a rumble.
TBH, you can't really count on Mike to be objective and critical about the assessment of Luongo. Signing him and spending the owner's money for that amount and that length was his call and to admit that there's flaws to his chosen investment is an admission of flaws in some of his management decisions. Historically, we've seen him make correct decisions, and we've seen him make incorrect decisions.

Whether there is merit or not, by protecting his investment, he's just protecting his stake as a manager. Regardless, it's not just the "uneducated unclassy Vancouver" fans who are echoing concern about Luongos stock. Just look around the league. Hear the voice of other fanbases and see how much intimidation the name "Luongo" wields (and compare that even to Sedin(s) or Kesler). When watching Canuck games, listen to what some panelists have to say, or even fellow NHL players.

So, to anyone who chooses not to buy into the "Luongo is elite" hype, or those who are vocal about the flaws in his game, does not make you "unCanuck" or "uneducated hockey fan." In fact, outside of Vancouver, there are many like you who are thinking the same thing.


At the end of the day... it could be worse. Win or lose, we could be one of those cities that just don't care (as per Trevor Linden); but luckily we're not. So the "homer" camp need to put in just as much perspective as the "so-called" bandwagoners that we're actually THAT KIND of a city.

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Lions game at 4 PM?????

Shitmekanobbers, I'll have to get my weekend shopping done ASAP.
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PVR will have to do heh. and avoid canucks thread..........
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Don't forget the Whitecaps game is also at 4. At least the Lion's game is in Hamilton.
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