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well if the schools teach it so that it's ok to be gay, that goes against Christianity.
asian or caucasian, im sure the majority of people would be outraged if reiligon/anti-religion was taught in school.
but just merely stating the facts itself kinda says that its ok.
what are the chances that Gr. 1 s know about homosexuality.
The same chances that Grade 1s are being taught about homosexuality: slim.
Sex ed for younger grades is essentially body science, so they can identify the right parts without being ashamed - ie so if their priest is touching them in private areas they can tell someone - ok ok bad example
Schools can teach about the holocaust without teaching it is OK to slaughter jews, likewise they can teach about homosexuality without advocating for it.
It's a fascinating topic, what forms of sexuality to teach in class. Does the school cover masturbation and other many fancies, from bondage, white socks, to ménage à trois?
I haven't taken her high school classes, yet from I know she does cover many different types of sex: self pleasuring, oral, vaginal, anal, homosexual, transgender, ... She does not cover fetishes other than to acknowledge they exist and there's many types, and may answer questions from students if they wish to pursue a particular fetish - yet most of the time any discussion opf fetishes is usually a smart-ass kid trying to embarrass the teacher, and it usually backfires when she answers calmly and factually about any topic.
She also teaches in community centres, clinics, hospitals, and prisons. It is a very interesting job, she always has stories of the crazy things people asked about.
I find it interesting that all the people in this "group", are Asian immigrants.
Someone needs to remind these folks that this is Canada. What may not fly back in their country, is becoming more acceptable here. Learn to assimilate, this isn't China.
prety much sums up how I feel about this lol, like I mean I'm not gon lie when I was younger I was really like no that shit is fucked up blah blah but I'm 20 now and I guess a lil more grown and I'm just like hey if that floats your boat why not. As for this group thing it has nothing to do with protecting what they learn and shit they just scared their kids going to turn out to be gay lol. I understand on the other side of the coin these parents grew up in a different time and they were taught a certain way but hey slavery was acceptable at a time too, the world is ever evolving, hopefully so will the people.
I find it interesting that all the people in this "group", are Asian immigrants.
Someone needs to remind these folks that this is Canada. What may not fly back in their country, is becoming more acceptable here. Learn to assimilate, this isn't China.
like i said before.
immigrating to a new country and then challenging their view on how to educate children
your title "homophobic parents = fail" can easily be up for discussion. our parents were brought up in the days where homophobia was frowned upon in society.
however, there is a difference between homophobic parents failing to be good parents, and homophobic parents trying to be good role models.
on one hand, you have homophobic parents, like these ones, preventing their children as well as other children from learning the truth about people, how they think and how they look at people.
on the other hand, you have homophobic parents that know that the tides are changing and that their children should be aware of such things as homosexuality.
my parents grew up being taught / believing that homosexuality is a no no. however they support it because they understand that people change and you cannot forbid someone to have emotions for someone of the same race / forbid them to want to marry someone they love, regardless of sex.
on the other hand, i have friends who have parents who just like mine, grew up being taught / believing that homosexuality is a no no. unlike my parents though, they are still against it and do not hold back in discriminating against them.
just because many parents grew up believing that homosexuality is bad, doesn't mean every parent is a failure to open their children's eyes to homosexuality.
just my 2cents
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well if the schools teach it so that it's ok to be gay, that goes against Christianity.
asian or caucasian, im sure the majority of people would be outraged if reiligon/anti-religion was taught in school.
but just merely stating the facts itself kinda says that its ok.
what are the chances that Gr. 1 s know about homosexuality.
I'm chinese and a christian. If anybody should be outraged at this, it's me right? But Christian beliefs or not, we don't live in a Christian society anymore, society has changed and evolved. Society says it IS ok to be gay. There's really only 2 choices left here, either schools teach it's ok to be gay, or they teach that it is wrong. And I'm pretty sure the latter is never going to happen.
well if the schools teach it so that it's ok to be gay, that goes against Christianity.
What the hell are you talking about? The Bible doesn't not state that being gay is wrong. What kind of permutated Bible are you reading ?
The Bible says no to pre-marital sex. THAT'S IT. Thus, any sexual activity ( gay nor straight ) is frowned upon on before marriage. Sure a gay union under a church is not allowed, but it doesn't make it a sin to be gay.
This is where people who are anti-gay would misinterpret the Bible just for their own benefit and preach blasphemy that being gay is unnatural and is a sin.
And for gay sexual activity, sure it's a sin, but it's no different than the rest of straight unmarried couples having sex under the Bible's paradigm.
I don't know what bible you're reading. Here, LMGTFY.
I like that page not because it preaches against homosexuality, but because it puts just as much blame on the adulterers and premaritalsexers. I am curious why nobody harshes on the people who get their hair cut and who eat shellfish. I mean I know he's old, but does nobody remember Leviticus?
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Many of those are pre-Jesus laws, many were also tribal law, when He came, tons of stuff got tossed out the window. Personally, I never caught onto how they figured out which of the old testament laws still apply.
You know, if this was a bunch of white folks who were protesting and saying "I don't want my children taught about black/asian/hispanic people, because knowing they exist might make my children black/asian/hispanic and there for inferior to my christian white self" there would be no empathy for them.
Why is this any different?
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Well, it's a little different than that. What you listed are ethnicities. I think the worry of the parents are not so much that their kids are being taught that there are gay people out in the world, but rather being taught that the lifestyle is acceptable. I think this subject is probably closer to those idiot parents that want creationism taught alongside evolution in the science classroom.
Anyways, this such a serious thread, let's liven it up a little shall we?
I suppose my perspective hinges on the idea that you're generally born with your sexual leanings.
IMO you can talk about gay all you like. If a kid is straight, out side of some experimenting they're going to be straight, discussion doesn't change that. You don't choose to be gay. Your born that way baby.
Just like you can talk about black folks all you like, and some white kid might play around with emulating those cultural norms but that doesn't make them black.
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food for thought.
It takes straight parents to make gay children
not really. a lesbo couple and gay couple could come to a mutual agreement and have sex just for the sake of reproduction. doesnt make them straight though.
not really. a lesbo couple and gay couple could come to a mutual agreement and have sex just for the sake of reproduction. doesnt make them straight though.
This really doesn't happen all that often.
Most gay kids have straight parents.
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You know, if this was a bunch of white folks who were protesting and saying "I don't want my children taught about black/asian/hispanic people, because knowing they exist might make my children black/asian/hispanic and there for inferior to my christian white self" there would be no empathy for them.
Why is this any different?
The difference is that it is most obvious one is born with certain skin colour, but personally, I am not entirely convinced one is born gay or straight.
But then, even if we are born bi-sexual, I believe one should have the rights to do whatever one wants in the bedroom; on the other hand, I'm not sure if it is only correct, that I must accept and endorse others sexual preferences.
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I find it interesting that all the people in this "group", are Asian immigrants.
Someone needs to remind these folks that this is Canada. What may not fly back in their country, is becoming more acceptable here. Learn to assimilate, this isn't China.
At the end of the day, unless you are a native robbed from your land, we are all immigrants.
New American Bible. It's a Catholic Bible. Non of that protestant/lutheran/new age Bible nonsense that those Wesboro Church hatemongers follow.
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