What is wrong with people?? I'm not sure if y'all have heard, but the police services on the lower part of Vancouver Island are cracking down on speeding and dangerous driving on the Malahat....between Mill Bay and Victoria. This road is NOT a dangerous road, yet there are many "stupid" accidents and sadly...deaths. So, they've started extra enforcement on the "Hat" this summer and there are posted signs every 3 or 4 kilometers stating such a fact. Even the large LED signs over the beginning of the Hat, from both the south and north end, state this. I have, in the past week, driven twice to Victoria and you know what? The "speed traps" are FULL of cars pulled over for speeding!!! How "daft" can people be? You are being warned about the extra enforcement....yet they still speed. The Malahat is a drive that takes about 15 minutes to drive if you do the speed limit. Does speeding actually save you that much time? Is the violation ticket you get worth the time you save? I think many of the speeders just don't like to be behind someone.......and yes...some just like to go fast. The "hat" is 20 kilometers long If you do the speed limit of 80kmh, it will take you 15 minutes. If you do 100kmh, it will take you 13 minutes. If you do 120kmh, it will take you 10 minutes. Is it worth doing 40 k OVER the speed limit to save 5 minutes? What is 5 minutes if you're dead....what is 5 minutes if you kill someone else? What is 5 minutes if you're in a wheel chair? Just leave 5 minutes earlier!!!! :fullofwin: An old trucker once told me..."If your truck is mechanically sound, your load is legal...and you do the speed limit...you NEVER have to look out for the police". How many of us have to drive and look out for the police? If you do have too......you are driving illegally! :D |
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As someone who worked the area for 3 years and went to most of the crashes there, I agree. Fault of the idiot drivers, very little wrong with the road if driven in a responsible way. When you crash into a rock wall at 200 kmh, while a learner, while racing with your "supervisor", or roll a tanker truck because you are drunk, you can't blame the road. If it is foggy, rainy, snowy, icy, slippery or traffic is extra heavy, then slow down, driver sober, respect other drivers and drive responsibly. The "Hat ain't the problem, the "Mad 'Hatters" are. :) |
Thanks for the heads up. I think I'll just stay off the Malahat if it is such a death trap that requires such aggressive enforcement. It's easy pickings. The speed limit on most sections of the Malahat are too low. Most attentive drivers who are driving according to conditions will do 100km/hr in some of those 80 zones. I actually find it more mentally taxing to be concentrating primarily on my speed than to concentrate on what is going on around me. I have yet to see a tailgater get nicked at a speed trap. I was almost rear-ended today as I slowed down in the 90-80-60 transition zone heading to the airport this morning. |
I have a friend who had several thousand dollars worth of tools stolen from a work van. With the tools was a cell phone. The phone was tracked to a house which was occupied by a known thief. Since the vehicle was parked in one municipality and the thief lived in another, the police didn't want to deal with the case. It is so nice to know that the road safety squad can ignore these boundaries and officers from multiple jurisdictions can work in perfect harmony when it is financially benificial to the government, ICBC, safety squad funding, etc.. I'm so happy the IRSU has my best interests at heart. You wonder why people come on here and use the language they do to describe the police. |
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5 minutes can add up. If i go 80km/h on a 60km trip itll take 45 min compared to 120km/h = 30mins. Drive 4 times like his and save an hour !!! |
Just get a passport 9500 detector and some laser jammer. when you get hit with the laser just slam the brakes and quickly turn the jammer off... cop will then register your speed. |
^ Why would a police officer run out in front of dangerous, inattentive and wreckless drivers? |
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I think I'll drive up and down the Malahat a few times this weekend doing 10km/hr under the limit with my hazards on. |
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:rant All highly accurate measurements taken using a tripod mounted gun I see.. |
1 Attachment(s) remember this accident less than a month ago? i've see a guy looking on ground while j walking on normal walking speed :speechless: |
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I think someone needs to do a ride along with BOTH the police and the ambulance service. We all know who would benefit from this and whom I am talking about. Physically walk up to a wrecked car as a result of speeding and check if the driver is alive or not, or remove a body from that car.....no matter how callous you are...it's a VERY difficult thing to do. You would be handling a person that was alive a few minutes ago, but is now dead. Worse yet....deal with a fatality that is the result of SOMEONE ELSE'S need for speed. Death is pretty final! Or pick up pieces off the road from a person that was thrown from their vehicle because of not wearing a seat belt AND speeding. You will soon understand why a person will stand there and think..."was speeding worth it"? Perhaps you think you're invincible......but you're not and neither am I, the driver that shares the road with you. Accidents can have a great way of "equalizing" everyone. |
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Very true, but if, on the 3 time you drive at 120km/h...and you have an accident..kill yourself.....you don't get that last 15 minutes do you? :) Not sure about you...but I wouldn't mind that 15 minutes...even if it was just driving! :D |
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As far as showing you collisions that occur because of just going over 20k the speed limit...sorry I can't....I don't have the records or don't work the highway in an "official" capacity. You know.....if the speed limit was 100km/h, there will still be people that will complain that it is too slow and will still do 20km/h over. Ask the detachments how many violators they catch doing 40km/h over? There has to be a speed limit, and many factors have to be taken into account, not just YOUR supposed driving skills and your hotrod! :D But, all "hassling" aside, do a ride a long with an officer....see how their job looks from their end. Do a ride along with an ambulance crew and "get" involved with a situation that will make you shake your head. Do you know which driver on the road will make the mistake or cause an accident? Nope, nobody can tell the future. THIS is why police agencies do what they are doing. The violator they catch now MAY have been the driver that caused a terrible accident 5 minutes later, and that is why a majority of the officers do what they do.....oh...and it's their job! :D Another question....would you rather hit something at 80km/h or 100km/h? What if ANOTHER driver makes a mistake and crosses over to your side of the road? You stop quicker when doing 80km/h than 100km/h AND it might not hurt as bad! |
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Don't make me dig up the BC speed limit study that showed a reduction in collisions at test sites where they raised the posted limit. And where they showed that a more reasonable speed limit resulted in a higher level of voluntary compliance with the limits. If you want to set the Malahat speed limits to accommodate the "lowest common denominator" set it at 50, that's the speed the tanker trucks go. If you want to talk about other slower drivers.. fine. I slow down when traffic slows down. I don't weave in and out of slower cars (nobody would feel the need to do that if the "keep right" law was enforced). But when there aren't other cars around for me to crash into, there's no sense in confining me to 80km/hr when that road section is capable of supporting 120km/hr. If it truly is about other drivers getting in the way of a "speeding" car then why are you just as, if not more likely to get a ticket when speeding alone? Do the police honestly feel that just because I am speeding alone it means that I will drive aggressively when more cars are present? If so, that's just insulting. The bottom line here is if you drive according to traffic and weather conditions and with regard for the road design (straight, curvy, sight lines, etc..) you don't need a speed limit to tell you what to do. There's nothing wrong with 120km/hr on some of those straight sections in light traffic. Just drive according to the conditions when you approach the curvy bits - i.e: slow down to a reasonable speed for the road design. |
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The problem with propaganda like that video is it assumes that the kid/dog/whatever will always be running out from the same location. Or it assumes that I'm too stupid to think that the kid/dog/whatever could run out in front of me at any location. If I'm doing 50 in a 50 zone and a kid falls backwards off a curb at a bus stop 10 feet in front of my car, he's probably going to end up a hood ornament. |
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Hey, I didn't pick that. Talk to the sheep. |
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