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Old 07-20-2011, 09:19 PM   #26
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P-zero neros are the worst tread life tire i've ever used.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:24 PM   #27
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wats the difference between these two? i was thinkin about getting pirelli p-zero neros again but this thread has made me want to do otherwise

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Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus are all seasons. Pilot Super Sports are summer/rain.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:40 PM   #28
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P-zero neros are the worst tread life tire i've ever used.
i currently got 50,000kms on my neros and their bald as fuckkk
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:41 PM   #29
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Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus are all seasons. Pilot Super Sports are summer/rain.
do they perform the same? because i do drive when its really cold but just not when its snowing...
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I don't care about price... I want ultimate performance. I know the Conti DW is a good bargain. Not looking for that.
Why not the Star Specs or the Toyo R1R's then?

I'm confused.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:52 PM   #31
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i currently got 50,000kms on my neros and their bald as fuckkk
Really? I was looking to get a set of those for All Seasons after my Goodyear Eagle GTs. They're cheaper than the Michelin A/S Plus or the new Bridgestones
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Why not the Star Specs or the Toyo R1R's then?

I'm confused.
He's a VW/German fanboy. Let him be. Because FWD is awesome, right?
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:57 PM   #33
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Why not the Star Specs or the Toyo R1R's then?

I'm confused.
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He's a VW/German fanboy. Let him be. Because FWD is awesome, right?
Let me rephrase - I want something that will give me reasonable treadwear, reasonable ride quality/NVH and great traction within the Max Performance Summer class. I'd go for Star Specs, RS-3 or the R1R if my car was going to autocross or track often, but it's not, and I do drive my car a fair amount so I want tires that will last/not go bald very quickly. Also, I want a better ride quality than the Star Specs will give me - and less noise. I've ridden in cars equipped with Star Specs - not my choice for a DD tire... a little harsh/noisy for me.

And if I was a VW/German fanboy I'd be going Continental not Michelin. Wrong country there! Currently the PSS are the top performing tire within that category, hence my choice.

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do they perform the same? because i do drive when its really cold but just not when its snowing...
Performance not the same... but if you have to ask you should be ok with the Pilot Sport A/S - the Super Sports are not going to be good in cold/snowy conditions.
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I had the Michelin PS2 RFT on my car for 2 years and this is what I found

Good:
Very very responsive
Great traction, and you can really feel how much more you can push the tires in a corner.
Ride comfort was good

Bad:
Very expensive
Doesn't last long
Ride comfort deteriorate after 60-70% tread wear...when I got to 5/32" tread, the ride was HORRIBLE, it is like riding in a car with a broken shock, very bumpy and noisy. (I really thought I have a bad shock)

Switched to Continental ExtremeContact DW last month.....never thought the tires can affect the ride comfort so much! (but then to be fair, the PS2 only had 4/32" tread left)
The DW is half the price of the PS2, and most people say the treadwear on the DW is much better than PS2, so you might wanna consider that if you are on a budget.

Traction are about the same. However, the handling on the DW just doesn't feel as "tight" as the PS2 for me.
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:29 PM   #35
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another thing to add....
I didn't realize how nice the PS2 tires look on the car until I had the Extremecontact DW on...


The DW looks kinda ugly when I first put it on lol...but you will get used to it.
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Old 07-21-2011, 04:36 PM   #36
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You were also running RFT tires... which will affect ride comfort greatly. The DW are non-RFT, I assume.
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Old 08-21-2011, 12:40 PM   #37
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Tire Rack is having a sale on the Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics - $99 each in my size. Should I get these or the Pilot Super Sports? The F1's are a good, reputable tire and should provide 90% of the performance of the PSS... for half the price.

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