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Old 07-21-2011, 06:53 PM   #1
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VANCOUVER, British Columbia (Reuters) - A Canadian court cleared the way on Thursday for the extradition of China's most wanted man, dismissing concerns that he could be tortured or executed back home.

Federal Court Judge Michel Shore refused a request to stay the deportation of Lai Changxing, accused by Beijing of running a multibillion-dollar smuggling operation in China in the 1990s.
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Wow, so the time finally came.

Though I'll withhold any of my personal opinions on whether this was the correct thing to do, one of my professors actually had Lai drop in to one of my SFU classes (his sons were actually SFU alumini). He willingly answered questions and spent a good portion of the class with us, a near four hours.

He'll undoubtedly suffer the second he sets foot in China. He isn't one of China's most wanted for nothing.

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That lawyer at that end of the article has got it right.
They won't kill him by execution, but there are other ways to die other than that.

This Lai fellow is in for a hell of a ride...
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Wow, so the time finally came.

Though I'll withhold any of my personal opinions on whether this was the correct thing to do, one of my professors actually had Lai drop in to one of my SFU classes (his sons were actually SFU alumini). He willingly answered questions and spent a good portion of the class with us, a near four hours.

He'll undoubtedly suffer the second he sets foot in China. He isn't one of China's most wanted for nothing.

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Chinese fugitive loses last battle to stay in Canada - thestar.com
that would have been interesting, what class was this for? Criminology? LOL
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that would have been interesting, what class was this for? Criminology? LOL


It was actually for a Modern Chinese History seminar. Basically, a class that explored the inner workings of modern day Chinese governments. It was very interesting indeed. We even had reporters for a Chinese newspaper in the class as well.
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some may not know this

but theres a power struggle going on currently in china

1 faction wants Lai there to use him against the other

the other faction doesn't want Lai there


that's why Jiangs condition (its believed he's dead) is being kept secret as he's the "leader" of one of the factions in the struggle


my cousin actually knows Lai has dinner @ his home regularly he was sure he wouldn't get deported (lai)
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wow, the justice system actually prevailed this time..
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has nothing to do with the justice system


this is all politics
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well had he not done what he did, he wouldnt be scared to go back to china.

dont do the crime if you cant do the time.
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Yea, why resist so hard if you know you're innocent.

The politics of this is exactly why this whole ordeal has dragged on for so long. IMO, we're trading away one baddie, to keep a steady influx of rich tourism/immigration dollars flowing our way.
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well had he not done what he did, he wouldnt be scared to go back to china.

dont do the crime if you cant do the time.
it's China. You don't have to be guilty to go to jail. Even in Canada innocent people sometimes get locked up.
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has nothing to do with the justice system


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I agree. I don't think its so much a case of justice as it is a political statement on China's part.

If China can bring back a fugitive (who incidentally has a lot of supporters rallying for his cause) residing for more than a decade in a globally recognized fugitive haven, they're making a big statement to the rest of the world.

To be frank, Lai Changxing does not have much economic worth to China. His extradition is more symbolic than anything, which is why China has agreed to terms (that they otherwise consider to be a matter or privacy and sovereign decisions) like non execution or torture.
Now of course, that's just what they're saying. What happens once he lands in China is another story completely.
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All these $ wasted on lawyers dragging this for so long.
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Interesting that the basis to deport him was that China promised not to kill him... Something tells me, what he faces will be much worse than death.
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Lol he obviously gonna get tortured and killed
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Probably would have just taken 1 or 2 more bribes for him to be safe for good. Maybe he ran out of money eventually. Out of that $10 billion I wonder how much went out to bribes?
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i dont understand what he really did other than bribe government officials... in that case lets deport most of vancouver
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While most of us would believe he's to be tortured..

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One of China's most wanted men ordered released today in Vancouver

I think the problem is that even though the Chinese government claims that they'll treat Lai fairly, there are many ways to have him killed or his cause of death faked. If China were to do so regardless, wouldn't that potentially ruin the reputation of China for future extradition cases between the two countries? Wasn't the Canadian government hesitant to ship him back in the first place?
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China grants that but I know for a FACT it takes about 11-13 hours to fly there.
That is a lot of torturing lol.

Thats like saying oh leave your 19 year old smoking daughter in my bed for a night. You can come visit in the morning to make sure we didn't fuck
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