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MindBomber 08-03-2011 02:33 AM

R32 vs. R33 vs. R34 vs. R35 GTR Race
 

asian_XL 08-03-2011 05:02 AM

Summary: modded R34 wins

Berzerker 08-03-2011 06:13 AM

R32 looked twitchy, R35 looked Boring, R33 did better than expected and the R34 only won because it had the biggest wing.

Berz out.

CP.AR 08-03-2011 07:57 AM

R34 IS ALWAYS THE BEAST

Stealthy 08-03-2011 09:45 AM

R35 is missing a pedal

MindBomber 08-03-2011 12:07 PM

The problem with the R35 is the car has to much control over itself, it doesn't really let the driver push the car to the limits.

bloodmack 08-03-2011 12:37 PM

RB25 + R32 = winning. R34/33 is sexy but too heavy R35.. too many computers.. not a real skyline.

1exotic 08-03-2011 12:46 PM

computer vs real cars

Santofu 08-03-2011 12:48 PM

Results: R34 always win... Because you know why? It's gonna be legend wait for it... DARY

MindBomber 08-03-2011 12:53 PM

There's a good quote at 4:15 in this video when the drivers are comparing the two cars, "The NSX feels more like I'm driving myself, but the GT-R helps driver". I'd rather rely on my skills as a driver, than a computers ability to compensate for my weaknesses.


JoshuaWong 08-03-2011 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 7533314)
There's a good quote at 4:15 in this video when the drivers are comparing the two cars, "The NSX feels more like I'm driving myself, but the GT-R helps driver". I'd rather rely on my skills as a driver, than a computers ability to compensate for my weaknesses.

‪Mine's R35 GT-R VS Spoon NSX-R GT 3 of 3‬‏ - YouTube

NSX-R GT is still the king of Japanese car to this day IMO.

supman7 08-03-2011 05:22 PM

lol finally I've seen a race where MCR wins

Gt-R R34 08-03-2011 05:33 PM

R34 is still my favourite car of all time!!

Can you tell? :)

bloodmack 08-03-2011 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshuaWong (Post 7533437)
NSX-R GT is still the king of Japanese car to this day IMO.

Supras, Z-Cars, Skylines, STIs, Evolutions

NSX-R GT is a great car, but there are many other just as good if not better competitors. IMO.

MindBomber 08-03-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodmack (Post 7533780)
Supras, Z-Cars, Skylines, STIs, Evolutions

NSX-R GT is a great car, but there are many other just as good if not better competitors. IMO.

It depends how you think about it, in some ways the GT is in a league of it's own, separate from other JDM legends, because only 5 were built to comply with super gt production car regulations. Ultimately it's not that much different from a regular NSX, but to collectors with deep pockets owning a 1 of 5 car with an original sticker price of $470k is a special privilege. I tend to think these cars will one day be selling for equivalent prices to the original shelby cobras are now.

A standard NSX or NSX-R is a definite competitor with the other legends. I just wish Honda would realize that the original design is flawless too, drop in a turbo k24, update the electronics a bit and re-release the NSX almost entirely unchanged. Fuckin Japanese accounts, focusing development on economy.

JoshuaWong 08-03-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodmack (Post 7533780)
Supras, Z-Cars, Skylines, STIs, Evolutions

NSX-R GT is a great car, but there are many other just as good if not better competitors. IMO.

NSX-R GT is basically the same as a Type R and in 2002, none of the Japanese domestic competitor could match the 2002 NSX-R (NA2) 3.2L on the track.

Maybe they look close on paper, but stock for stock it was the king until the R35 came out. The 2nd gen Type R did equaled the Ferrari 360 CS's time on the Nurburgring.

dachinesedude 08-03-2011 09:42 PM

i'll take a R34 GTR Z-tuned over a R35 ANY DAY

TOS'd 08-03-2011 10:17 PM

Why didn't they include the skyline 350gt?

http://articles.motortoday.com/testd...350GT_rear.jpg

Leopold Stotch 08-03-2011 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 7533827)
It depends how you think about it, in some ways the GT is in a league of it's own, separate from other JDM legends, because only 5 were built to comply with super gt production car regulations. Ultimately it's not that much different from a regular NSX, but to collectors with deep pockets owning a 1 of 5 car with an original sticker price of $470k is a special privilege. I tend to think these cars will one day be selling for equivalent prices to the original shelby cobras are now.

A standard NSX or NSX-R is a definite competitor with the other legends. I just wish Honda would realize that the original design is flawless too, drop in a turbo k24, update the electronics a bit and re-release the NSX almost entirely unchanged. Fuckin Japanese accounts, focusing development on economy.

would you really put a turbo I4 in a "super car" that will probably be priced along with cars with turbo 6's and V8/10s?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOS'd (Post 7533969)
Why didn't they include the skyline 350gt?

http://articles.motortoday.com/testd...350GT_rear.jpg

Come on. Seriously?

RBGodzilla 08-03-2011 11:12 PM

5:44 .. the r33.. OH GOD!! :sweetjesus:

MindBomber 08-04-2011 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leopold Stotch (Post 7533983)
would you really put a turbo I4 in a "super car" that will probably be priced along with cars with turbo 6's and V8/10s?

Many people consider the pinnacle of Honda V6 engines the c-series that was developed for the NSX; J-series, the next generation of Honda V6 engines, transitioned to sohc and relatively low red lines, which makes sense since it's basically meant for big sedans. That means that realistically a J-series with distinctly different internals and an entirely new head would need to be engineered specially for the NSX, not exactly profitable, just like designing a V10 just for the NSX isn't.

Now, consider that a k20 or k24 would fit nicely inside the current NSX engine bay even with a turbo. Add to that Mugen has developed k20a engines that produce as high as 260hp NA already, and conservative turbo k-series engines produce in the 400-500hp range with ease using aftermarket parts. It seems like the perfect fit to me, not to mention the weight savings.

crazyazn 08-04-2011 01:47 AM

Well those were modded R32,33,34 while the R35 was stock, so the R35 is pretty damn impressive...but honestly I liked the R33 in OP's video the most.

JoshuaWong 08-04-2011 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 7534149)
Many people consider the pinnacle of Honda V6 engines the c-series that was developed for the NSX; J-series, the next generation of Honda V6 engines, transitioned to sohc and relatively low red lines, which makes sense since it's basically meant for big sedans. That means that realistically a J-series with distinctly different internals and an entirely new head would need to be engineered specially for the NSX, not exactly profitable, just like designing a V10 just for the NSX isn't.

Now, consider that a k20 or k24 would fit nicely inside the current NSX engine bay even with a turbo. Add to that Mugen has developed k20a engines that produce as high as 260hp NA already, and conservative turbo k-series engines produce in the 400-500hp range with ease using aftermarket parts. It seems like the perfect fit to me, not to mention the weight savings.

Might as well build the C32B and force induction it. There's no replacement for displacement. A tiny 2 litre inline 4 even with a turbo will struggle with powerband and torque. Even if you attain the same power as a turbo C32B , you wont get the same drivability.

Kind of simple experiment, strap a high rpm turbo on s2k or fd2 in gt5 making 400hp and race a mild na tuned nsx at 400hp in a straight line and the tiny inline4 will get smoked.

MindBomber 08-04-2011 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshuaWong (Post 7534527)
Might as well build the C32B and force induction it. There's no replacement for displacement. A tiny 2 litre inline 4 even with a turbo will struggle with powerband and torque. Even if you attain the same power as a turbo C32B , you wont get the same drivability.

Kind of simple experiment, strap a high rpm turbo on s2k or fd2 in gt5 making 400hp and race a mild na tuned nsx at 400hp in a straight line and the tiny inline4 will get smoked.

With the right gearing and a good supercharged you can make a lot of power on a k24 or f20b and easily compete with the c32b and other 6 cyl engines, besides, the nsx isn't a straight line car.

Maybe Honda should just hire this guy and buy his designs.
LS7NSX.com Ultimate Hybrid LS7NSX
:seriously:

bloodmack 08-04-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshuaWong (Post 7533901)
NSX-R GT is basically the same as a Type R and in 2002, none of the Japanese domestic competitor could match the 2002 NSX-R (NA2) 3.2L on the track.

Maybe they look close on paper, but stock for stock it was the king until the R35 came out. The 2nd gen Type R did equaled the Ferrari 360 CS's time on the Nurburgring.

Just cause its the fastest doesn't mean its the king.

I.E. I think the best skylines in order are R32, R34, R31, 2000GTR(C10 series), R33, R35 (i know there are others but these are the ones i find that truly define the skyline name)

I find that something that should be king because its influential. 240Z and C10 series were here before the NSX was even made and they're not nearly as "fast" as an NSX or any other 1992 - 2011 JDM machine. And what about the RX7? Rotary engine is still used in RX cars today.

I think instead of using the word king we should use iconic.


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