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Old 08-11-2011, 10:19 PM   #51
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that story sounds so fucking sad geez
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so does this bear bile shit actually work?

i remember my parents trying this stuff out for some sort of sickness/cure/remedy along time ago

they bought it from some chinese herbal medicine store in chinatown
Yes, they do work. If they hadn't, it's either you had the knock-off version (which is plenty because those things are expensive) or your sickness has nothing to do with consuming it. No, barely anybody use them straight up as medicine for sickness anymore, because they're expensive, not widely available and there's better, cheaper and more widely available alternatives.

I believe these guys still in business because they mostly sell it for other purposes now, for example mixing bear bile with wine and stuffs like that. My dad has people bring these kind of wine over occasionally as gift even though he doesn't drink.

Also, some uneducated comments in here. Animal cruelty isn't unique to any race or any country. You must be living under a cave to believe that. Third world country? Please. Propaganda BS. Maybe if you start cover some NA news, you could realize that some people around you aint that much better than some tching-tchao dude across the oceans. And posting a nuclear explosion picture is just retarded.
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In China, there are two moon bear rescue centers, one in the Sichuan province and one in the Yunnan province. The rescue centers have already rescued approximately 300 bile bears. The bears are kept at the rescue centers where they are allowed to run around and play. The rescue centers not only rescue bile bears but also rescue some brown bears, dogs, cats, etc. The rescue center was opened by Jill Robinson from England.[citation needed]
7002 bears in farms and china rescue centers have managed to save 300....

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Almost as bad as rangers killing bears here because some fuken morons decided to live in bear coutry.
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Can anyone verify this story. No doubt about the cruelty about the bears, but the killing of cub and the suicide? Sounds over the top.
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Statistically, it was bound to happen. That bear could've been smarter than the average bear boo boo.
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lol are you kidding me? even a cow gets to stand up, and cows, chickens etc. know nothing else than to grow up and live in farms meant to produce food

to catch a wild bear and cubs and stick them in cages where they cant turn around to milk bile from an open wound in their stomach?

even the most heinous north american farming acts dont compare to shit like this

just as gross as the shark fin shit
There are severe acts of cruelty that occur at many North American farms and slaughter houses, I'm not defending China in any way. but I'm not blind to reality.

Also, live stock are not mindless drowns that are aware of only their need to grow and be eaten, having spent my entire life on farms I know that.

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i'm not sure which is worse, the video of the dog trade in china or this story... either way, sad to hear
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when it happens in China, everything will be magnified 100 times worse.
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sad story but its def not suicide lol. animals act on instinct, they are not self aware, therefore is not capable of suicide. (at least not bears) probly just went crazy from being in that cage for years.
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so much ignorance in this thread. This practice has been around for ages yet people act like it's the end of the world. Animal cruelty like already mentioned isn't specific to race or people..although the Chinese do find that odd animal parts from exotic animals/near extinction species as highly-sought after although it's has little to no medicinal effects but rather for social status.

Do I believe in traditional Chinese medicine? No. But do I believe that it's 100% bogus and all the 'healing effects' are simply placebo? No.
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And were do you live.
Where* do I live? In south surrey... Not likely place for bears.
I'm talking about that old lady that got mauled by a bear and they shot 4 of them to figure out which one did it.
I'm also talking about the people that move out further into the mountains to have a nice view or sweet cabin while intruding into the bears' territory.
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It's one thing to move to prince George and see bears in your yard, it's another to live in westwood plateau and see a bear going thrOugh your garbage, as soon as a bear is into garbage cans etc in a residential area like that you either move it or you have to kill it
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I'll trust in the healing power of...I don't know...science...rather than dried seahorse and bear bile.
My only comment on this is that western medicine often treats the symptoms, whereas traditional medicine often treats the underlying problem.

But I trust science a lot more than TCM!
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I didn't say that the Bears being caged were fake, I'm just pointing it out that the whole "suicide" thing is probably fake.

It's an Animal, it's main instinct is survival. This isn't some Asian drama.

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Where* do I live? In south surrey... Not likely place for bears.
I'm talking about that old lady that got mauled by a bear and they shot 4 of them to figure out which one did it.
I'm also talking about the people that move out further into the mountains to have a nice view or sweet cabin while intruding into the bears' territory.
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