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twitchyzero 08-13-2011 02:19 PM

CL & PayPal..risks?
 
i never recieved money from Paypal tranactions before..this is for a craigslist ad.

lets get some things out of the way..the guy doesn't have poor english so i'm not suspecting it's some Nigerian scam and he is willing to pay shipping.

I'm just curious how the dispute process works...ie if they guy bitches to paypal that my item wasn't how it was advertised when it was....forcing a chargeback on me etc.

spideyv2 08-13-2011 02:21 PM

tell him to stfu and eat a dick.

FerrariEnzo 08-13-2011 02:26 PM

thats why i like to deal with locals AND cash deals only.. that way they can inspect the goods.... you never know who might be the liar, buyer or seller...

LiquidTurbo 08-13-2011 02:28 PM

Don't do it.
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LenovoTurbo 08-13-2011 02:31 PM

Local cash only. If he files a charge back/dispute you lose your shit and lose your money.

Nlkko 08-13-2011 02:31 PM

I only use paypal for people with good rep on car forums only.

Never deal with anything but cash on craigslist. You don't want to deal with Paypal dispute. They're biased towards buyers. And he could have good English and still be a scammer.

twitchyzero 08-13-2011 02:36 PM

okay thanks for the quick replies.

should've just followed my instincts that this was too risky.

/thread

parm104 08-13-2011 03:29 PM

It's a scam no matter what...

- why would someone out of town be looking at our local Vancouver craigslist ads?
- why would someone local want to buy with paypal rather than cash?

Golden Rule - Craigslist = Cash Only

.Dream.Time 08-13-2011 03:57 PM

i actually sold my wow account through craigslist 3 years ago and he paid me through paypal for 1200 usd, but i guess it's probably hit or miss...

Less risky for an online item I guess since I could have stolen the account back at any point.

dangonay 08-13-2011 04:14 PM

Have some fun with him. Give him an e-mail of yours that's not tied to your PayPal account. Then watch as you receive a "fake" PayPal e-mail (but good version with PayPal logos and nice formatting) saying your funds have been deposited into your account, but won't be released until buyer receives the item.

What's really funny is they don't even check to see if your e-mail is a valid PayPal account or not - they just send the fake e-mail hoping you'll fall for it.

I get these all the time, and sometimes I like to fuck around with them and make them think they found another sucker.

parm104 08-13-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangonay (Post 7544121)
Have some fun with him. Give him an e-mail of yours that's not tied to your PayPal account. Then watch as you receive a "fake" PayPal e-mail (but good version with PayPal logos and nice formatting) saying your funds have been deposited into your account, but won't be released until buyer receives the item.

What's really funny is they don't even check to see if your e-mail is a valid PayPal account or not - they just send the fake e-mail hoping you'll fall for it.

I get these all the time, and sometimes I like to fuck around with them and make them think they found another sucker.

That's exactly what I do. If someone emails me from "overseas" and says they want to buy my "item for sale" (notice they will never mention the EXACT item you are selling, it's always general and vague)...I tell them to first send me pictures of their daughter.

hirevtuner 08-13-2011 06:10 PM

i'm selling tires for my friend and posted it on c/l, this guy goes by the name of "Michael Smith" sends me an e-mail asking if the item is still available and what my paypal e-mail is so he can deposit the money.

I'm like WTF? gotta be a scam so I ignored and deleted the e-mail.

gretzky 08-13-2011 06:11 PM

very useful thread... learn somethin everyday

mb_ 08-13-2011 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parm104 (Post 7544082)
It's a scam no matter what...

- why would someone out of town be looking at our local Vancouver craigslist ads?
- why would someone local want to buy with paypal rather than cash?

Golden Rule - Craigslist = Cash Only

To add to that, only do local sales.

Some guy e-mailed me for my camera a few days ago.. told him I'm going to Nigeria in a few days so I'll personally deliver the camera to his son and he stopped replying lol

spideyv2 08-13-2011 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive (Post 7544227)
To add to that, only do local sales.

Some guy e-mailed me for my camera a few days ago.. told him I'm going to Nigeria in a few days so I'll personally deliver the camera to his son and he stopped replying lol

lmfao...swag

CRS 08-13-2011 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive (Post 7544227)
To add to that, only do local sales.

Some guy e-mailed me for my camera a few days ago.. told him I'm going to Nigeria in a few days so I'll personally deliver the camera to his son and he stopped replying lol

:lol

Someone e-mailed me saying that they just moved from Vancouver to Markham and that we could do it over ebay/western union if I provided either an ebay user name or I transferred money over to XXX account.

I e-mailed him that I have friends in Markham that can meet up with him and do the deal in person and even save him on shipping. No reply.

MG1 08-13-2011 07:20 PM

I had some woman wanting to buy one of my more expensive stamps from my collection I listed in Vancouver CL. I was asking 500 bucks for the item. She's from Toronto. I basically told her she either gets a friend from here to pay for it and pick it up locally or we go through a stamp dealer here in town. I was willing to pay the 10% service. She never replied. I should have at least asked for a nude pic of her, LOLOLOL. Knowing my luck, she's probably a cow.

Vansterdam 08-13-2011 07:40 PM

been dealing with craigslist for over 5+ years

never have and never will use paypal

its either CASH OR TRADE ONLY

Mr.HappySilp 08-13-2011 07:48 PM

Always deal with local cash only. If the amount is large might be a good idea to get a friend to go with you or have the buyer directly transfer the fund from his bank to your acct or have the bank issue a money order while you are there.

Sold my WoW account on E-bay for $1200 years ago. The buyer even selected no refund/dispute option. So I waited till I have the money on my CL account, transfer it too my bank acct, Close my bank acct and open a new one. I then give the guy my WoW ACCt info.

Lol the next day Paypal E-mail buyer file a dispute coz the acct that used to purchase my WoW acct was hack. I pretty much ingore it since on my paypal acct was my old address and my old cell#. Haven't heard from Paypal ever since.

FishTaco 08-13-2011 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parm104 (Post 7544082)
It's a scam no matter what...

- why would someone out of town be looking at our local Vancouver craigslist ads?

I always look at vancouver craigslist and i live in kelowna. Vancouver has the most people which means alot of stuff for sale.

I even look at seattle/calgary/edmonton.

SkinnyPupp 08-13-2011 08:52 PM

Do it, it's totally legit

Spoiler!

pizzaMR2 08-13-2011 09:18 PM

the scam isn't that he'll complain that he didn't receive the item.

the scam is that the paypal account he's using was setup w/ a stolen credit card.

So when the real owner of the card makes a complaint, the credit card's bank will try to recover the money, thus, taking it out of your account until they can clear you of any wrong doing.


so my advice, walk away

Happy 08-14-2011 10:06 AM

#1 If he does a chargeback simply provide proof to paypal in an e-mail about how he recieved the right item etc and you will get your money back
#2 Never send the item until you get the money
#3 If you get him to send the $ as a gift, he can't charge back

I just bought a sunroof cassette for my bimmer through paypal from seattle for $200 <- no problems
cheapest one i could find in van was $600

Just because people try to find deals doesn't mean it's a scam
plus people who get scammed are retarded as fuck for falling for it when there's so many ways to prevent it

twitchyzero 08-14-2011 10:27 AM

^i'm assuming it was through a car forum where you could check out the guy's feedback?

I can't see how the seller can really prove he's innocent and it's so much easier siding with the buyer. I mean you could probably use a pics/video of a working product but only ship that same products with some parts missing etc.

Nlkko 08-14-2011 12:35 PM

There are deals out there but there are even more scams.

Even buying from car forums have a percentage risks. I've seen people buying from a guy with 100+ positive feedbacks and one day he did a group buy and just vanished.

Meet in person + cash = no risk. Except maybe you could get mugged. :D


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