Drug and weapon dealers that are also murderers (oh don't forget about all the fraud too) are just like anyone else? These so called "chilled" guys are douchebags no matter what level you speak of.

If you would rather hang out with them then your own lot of friends I expect your morals aren't very high and you should probably look for a new set of friends...

As for the girls in the car, living off the proceeds of crime, and thinking life is awesome... Whether these girls were girl friends or just some ass they picked up, this story should be read out loud to all the dumb girls who think hanging with these cool dudes is awesome!

sounds like banks/traders/etc ;)

True a lot of bankers are scum too. But they are technically not breaking the law.

Yay for more regulation.

No, they just do everything behind the scenes, committing countless violent crimes & murders and destroying thousands of peoples lives all while being nice and polite in public (like doing charity work for children and veterans). HA and everyone like them are the lowest scum of the earth.

Sorry, but anyone who knows a full patch HA member and thinks they are "chill" or "nice" doesn't really know them or is completely blind. Not every HA member is a murderer, drug dealer, pimp or enforcer. But they're part of a system full of these people and activities and are just as guilty of these crimes as the persons who commit them. You don't become a full patch member just by hanging around being "chill" with other members. And you don't become a full patch member without knowing what's really going on or how the organization works.

Yup. People point to the legitimate businesses the HA runs, but they were all financed/started with money from drugs or other activities. Pretty easy to start up a business and become highly successful when you have an unlimited source of start-up and operating capital to keep you afloat.

^i agree. a friend of mine used to work in a prison and said the hells angels guys were super nice and obedient and civilized. they would also have the most chicks visiting them for sex lol. but like u said, thats them not on the job, just being chill. when theyre working its a whole different story. and i dont need to know them personally to say this. just like im sure bernie madoff is a nice guy when hes out vacationing on his boat...or george dubya would be a chill guy to smoke some cigars with...
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Stay out of their business and they will most likely stay out of yours. What I was trying to say is, they wouldn't go out of their way to start shit with you unless you fucked with them in some sort of way. You think an HA member would randomly jump you? Probably not. They have more important things to worry about.

they might not randomly jump you, but they certainly wouldnt give two shits if your just a random bystander who happens to get shot up.

Keep in mind Jamie bacon allegedly killed TWO completely innocent bystanders in the surrey 6 incident. One of whom chris mohan i used to play basketball with. Imagine being a kid coming home and getting pulled into an apartment and murdered for no fucking reason.

Then youve got the quebec biker wars, where an innocent kid gets blown up and prison guards are being murdered and judges intimidated.

Gangsters/criminals benefit from being the enemy of civilized society end of story.

Exactly, I was going to say the same thing. The kid in the hall and the repairman weren't exactly looking for trouble when they were murdered in cold blood by these guys............allegedly

They will stay out of yours? BS.

Tell that to the people of small towns, cities and neighborhoods after the HA (or other gang) moved in and developed the territory creating a base of users and addicts to buy their products where none existed before. Is that staying out of your business?

Most people think the drug problem was "always there". Not true. You can almost always trace the history of a community and find out when the drug problem first started, and it is usually the result of organized crime coming in and setting up shop. It's not so apparent in the larger cities where there are always enough people getting caught up in abuse to form their own "community" (like the DTES). However, there are numerous examples even in recent history.

My hometown in Alberta never had anyone doing anything more than smoke pot or drink. The worst thing that happened is a few bar fights when people had too much to drink. About 30 years ago a group of bikers moved into the area and set up shop (this was just before I moved away). I remember them coming out to the bush parties and providing booze and weed for everyone. I also remember them encouraging people to try something "that'll make you feel really good". I was never there long enough to see the transformation until I was watching CBC one night and they had a special on my hometown and how it had serious gang and drug problems. A small fucking peaceful town of 10,000 people turned into it's own version of the DTES.

If you want to google it yourself just search for "Hobbema" and "Wetaskiwin". You can also search for "Edson Alberta" (where my uncle lives), another town that was peaceful 30 years ago and now has crack users in abundance (and a gang problem).

People always say "the drug problem was always there, and gangs are just providing something to fill a demand" or "if the gangs didn't provide drugs, then someone else would". That's also BS. Organized crime isn't satisfied with the status quo and even today they are still "developing new territories".

I wouldn't say they "stay out of your business".

The real gangsters are invisible and unknown to most of us.

And even the HA isn't running the show like most people claim they are, street level yes but overall there's bigger and much more powerful organizations running the drug trade in North America.

Right on.

......and recruiting youngsters to be pack mules. Enticing people - make an easy buck. Setting up smaller gangs of wannabe's and whatnot. The HA have an awesome PR - these guys aren't your typical dumbass criminals/thugs anymore. They've evolved. In the end, they profit from the suffering of others.

lolwut bankers, money managers, hedgefunds, and corporations dont break the law you say? almost spat my water out :lol:

yup everyone in the media is pretty much streetlevel and just puppets ;)

I just got a window tint ticket in Wetaskiwin funny to see it brought up on RS

Lame.

Every year the RCMP would get a new "interceptor" police cruiser and then my dad would have a drag race with them over a case of beer. How times have changed.

bumping old thread, the girl that was paralyzed is suing the hotel

B.C. woman paralyzed in shooting of gangster Jonathan Bacon sues accused gunmen

"unbeknownst to her, one or more of her acquaintances were involved in gang-related activities"

Does she think people will actually believe her?

lol unbeknownst to her :lol

she probably doesn't know about her uncle either


(last line in the article)


While its horrible that she's paralyzed, tragic imo (although others may not believe so), there's no sense in lying about her knowledge of the individuals she was with it will only draw criticism

smh. sloots gonna sloot. cant sloot the vag, may as well sloot for cash







i can understand where shes coming from, her life is now 100% fucked. however she needs to take some fucking responsibility for herself. it was her choice to run with the big dogs and feel like a queen.. and she got bit.