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09-24-2011, 07:01 AM
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#26 | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
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Originally Posted by Hurricane Factually incorrect information? Please do tell.
Was the case not completely reviewed by a Bill Clinton appointed Federal Judge in 2009? Did he not find the "new" evidence of Troy's to be suspicious, unfounded, redundant, and unconvincing? If federal judges are in the business to send innocent men to death, I agree the system needs reforms. | hey look something that you dont know how to do i'm admitting i was wrong @ that point; well not that i was wrong but i havent bother reading ur link; still something you can't do though Quote:
It's funny, because you are willing to call a cited respected journalist (I guess they exist) who has been covering the supreme court for well over 10 years a liar. Yet, a wikipedia entry without even a hint of any source that his neighbors called him a 'stand up' guy is more than enough for you to put him back on the street. Interesting logic. Even so, many people who are willing and able to take someones life are considered to be stand up guys by the people around them.
Also, you bolded the fact he was a baseball coach in a police league as some suggestion to his characters credibility? Read about Russell Williams if you think we should base probability of guilt on a person's daily life.
| everything just goes straight over your head doesn't it??? it was an example of how you convicted Troy Davis merely by his nickname from wikipedia without taking into consideration anything else or the issue of context.... jesus christ...... Quote:
The only thing that seems amiss here is the recanted statements. However, the credibility of these statements has been challenged since they were originally made.
Would I be surprised if some of the witnesses were encouraged to remember seeing Davis' face even if they only saw his clothes from behind? Nope. Unfortunately, the burden of proof for these types of cases in incredibly high, and how would you like to explain to the widow that the killer is going to walk away a free man? The police were under a lot of pressure to get as much supporting evidence as possible in a case where they knew exactly what had happened, but had little physical evidence to support it.
| rofl what....... again...the only thing that seems amiss is recanted statements.... that's the entirety of the evidence! and 1 of 2 statements that havent been recanted is by the guy who is probably the murderer! Sylvester Coles
THERE ARE NO MATCHING CASINGS (the only thing "matching" is they were .38 shells from a type of gun that Sylvester Coles owns) THERE IS NO BLOODY SHORTS
So... the Police are under a lot of pressure so its okay to coerce statements and make shit up??? wtf are you on seriously..... Quote:
I imagine it was pretty obvious to everyone in that original courtroom that Mr. Davis did the shooting. They don't just hand out death sentences to people who 'probably did it.' That is enough for me.
| I guess you've never heard of or seen all the countless death row inmates who were found to be innocent and States like Illinois who imposed a moratorium on Capital Punishment since more than half the people on death row were found to be not guilty due to new evidence (other death row inmates didn't meet the deadline requirements to apply for new trials; cant recall entirely ill get more info when i wake up for you or u can google) Quote:
Regarding the sob story; you seem to like grasping onto the emotional story lines, so I provided you with another one. | nice try but no that's not it at all
sorry if im a bit incoherent time to hit the sack
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09-26-2011, 12:42 PM
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#27 | Proud to be called a RS Regular!
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So why is it, that this man gets the death sentence for killing an officer, and those that have countless murders on their heads, rapists, and those who sexually assault children manage to get away with it, and end up in jail until bail or parole?
Hard not to feel angered about the ethics of that.
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09-26-2011, 03:38 PM
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#28 | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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I completely agree that some of you in here are missing the point.. Sure I agree that he was the lowest type of scum, and we're better off without him, but remember this is the same justice system that protects both you and me (well not really us since we live in Canada, but you see my point =) ).
If that was you, a family member, or someone you knew, that was about to get executed, I guarantee you would certainly argue for a second look.
If someone is about to be executed, there should be a much more rigorous level of standards and scrutiny when it comes dealing with evidence and eyewitness testimony.
If justice is blind of bias and persuasion, then it should serve all of its citizen rightfully, regardless of how much of a piece of shit they are.
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If we are not able to ask skeptical questions, to interrogate those who tell us that something is true; to be skeptical of those in authority, then we're up for grabs..
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09-26-2011, 10:16 PM
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#29 | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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Originally Posted by Hurricane No actually, it’s all you outraged people who are missing the point. The fact of the matter is, he was a bad person. Call it fate, karma, destiny or whatever; if you stand back at look at the big picture, this guy got exactly what he deserved. He was convicted of using the same gun earlier for a shooting as well, unfortunately the weapon was never recovered.
Secondly; if you really want to know what this case is about, it’s about politics, nothing to do with Mr. Troy Davis at all. Why would the defense wait until days before the execution to bring forth the recanted statements? Because they were useless as a device for substantive argument, but held some value as a tool for delay. Also, let’s ask for a polygraph on the day of the scheduled execution in a state where the results are not even admissible in court. It did its job though; it has people like you up in arms.
Even if he were to pass a test which was inadmissible in court, on the morning of his scheduled execution, who is to say he hasn’t spent the last 20 years convincing himself of his own innocence.
Also, no physical evidence? How about bullet casings on the scene that matched the ones from a shooting earlier in the day by Davis? Or the pair of shorts found in Davis’ washing machine with the dead cops blood on them which couldn’t be admitted in court because they were taken without a warrant. Yes, there was a lack of saliva or semen on the victim, as he was shot, not raped. But, explaining the details doesn’t make the case sound nearly as interesting.
This case was fought by the lawyers in court, and the politicians in the street. Personally I think this case is exactly opposite of what you say. It is a demonstration that the justice system does work, and is not easily influenced by a bunch of people with loud voices and no information.
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Capital punishment should have 0% doubt.
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09-26-2011, 11:41 PM
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don't they use the electrical chair or something, why lethal injection? :S
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