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Phozy 09-23-2011 03:06 PM

Cannabis being Illegal
 
I know there are many sides to this, but i found this post on Yahoo.

Quote:

"This is SO lame, this prohibition MUST stop! IF weed was made legal back in the hippie days of the '60's, as was requested, then I doubt that we'd see these so-called 'designer drugs', totally unsafe and mixed in somebody's bathtub or sink even around today.
These ARE tough times, people need to be able to relax and get away from it all for a while, all this man was doing was providing a service, nothing more. Face it, he didn't do it for the MONEY, he has lots.
There ARE alternatives here.
We can forget about weed and 'find ourselves' with LSD like Manson did, drink LEGAL booze that's responsible for oh, so many traffic deaths and domestic abuse/murder charges that fill our jails--or take a chemical pill with contents that don't belong in the body that WILL kill you.

Even better, the feds SELL US CIGARETTES that say right on the package THEY WILL KILL US. They don't care as long as they get their tax money!!
Hmm, if we COULD do it all over again, I wonder which would be legal and which wouldn't? The stuff the feds sell 'legally' will kill us DEAD and even THEY say so on EVERY package or box.

..yet we're afraid of a plant that's been on this earth since time began. The earliest perscrition was found and dated 2800BCE in Arabic and was for a headache which read 'Take 2 pipes of hashish then go to bed'

Go figure, weed was LEGAL UNTIL 1937 when a bully named Anslinger blew it up, much to the chagrin of the fledgling AMA and ALL rural doctors whom were aware this WAS medicine for those that were either too far from a doctor OR those that couldn't afford to see a doctor
.
Sad, Abraham Lincoln, argueably the best president the USA has ever had HATED ANY FORM OF PROHIBITION as HE KNEW that 'nature abhors a vacuum' and it would soon be filled with undesireable elements.
KEEP THIS UP AND THE REAL HARD-CORE CRIMINALS THAT DON'T FEAR JAIL OR KILLING WILL RUN ROUGHSHOD OVER ALL--THERE WILL BE BLOOD IF WE DON'T LEARN TO RELAX A BIT AND STOP CASTING JUDGEMENT!! Or another war on how to jail everyone, this way the Feds win twice.

Tell our officials to relax also and back off, before the REALLYl hard core guys get involved and we have a huge problem which our officials will say 'WOW, how did THAT happen?
as if they had NO clue OR direct/indirect involvment!
I'm not pro drugs, I'm pro weed, pro choice and anti Fed, the 'powder and pill people' would be hit hard if weed was ok, remember this!!
PROHIBITION WORKS ONLY FOR THE CRIMINALS, IF ONLY WE COULD ASK AL CAPONE OR JOE KENNEDY THE BOOTLEG KINGS OF THEIR DAY that made untold millions.
LOOK AT THE EFFECTS ON YOUR SOCIETY, 1 OF 1OO PEOPLE in the USA walking the streets today that have been in PRISON, not jail or the drunk tank, but BUTT-BLASTING PRISON over garbage laws. IS this what you want??
THINK, THINK then THINK AGAIN, soon it will make sense if you have ANY compassion or hope.
fighting over a PLANT, aren't we better than this?"
Source : http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/...urn=nfl-wp7717

Personally, i think cannabis should be legal, but taxed, just like anything. That could lead to huge amounts of money, especially for the US, so they can get out of this economic hole they're in.
I don't see the difference between selling cigarettes that can kill, alcohol that can kill, and weed that can also kill. But all 3 can be used for enjoyment as well. There are so many beneficial uses of cannabis. I find it ridiculous, and the prohibition of it is a waste of money, time, resources, and effort.

Thoughts?

GoneGuru 09-23-2011 03:09 PM


El Bastardo 09-23-2011 03:44 PM

Legalize it and tax it to death. Heavily regulate the production houses. Keep the legal consumption areas under watch to satisfy the opponents. And the age limit at 19.

Stiffen fines on street level dealers to weed out the competition. Mandatory prison minimums for people convicted of illegal production of marijuana and property of seizure of those property owners who grow their own stock. Also, mandatory deportation of non-citizens involved in drug related crimes.

Create a marijuana tourism industry and revitalize areas suffering as a result of dollar parity. Work to remove the stigma that everyone who smokes weed will end up a burnout like Tommy Chong or Mark Emery. Find public figures who are well respected and use them to promote it.

Take the marijuana industry out of the hands of the scumbags and the predatory trash and put it into the hands of business people.

And I don't even smoke weed. I hate it. But I think it should be legalized.

Stevie P 09-26-2011 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phozy (Post 7588348)
I don't see the difference between selling cigarettes that can kill, alcohol that can kill, and weed that can also kill.

The difference is that there have been zero deaths caused by the primary use of marijuana.

Great68 09-26-2011 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tachycardia! (Post 7588381)
Work to remove the stigma that everyone who smokes weed will end up a burnout like Tommy Chong or Mark Emery. Find public figures who are well respected and use them to promote it.

Both are millionaires... If they're burnouts, they've done very well for themselves. If you read Emery's bio he's led a pretty active life, which contradicts the whole "Pot makes you lazy" stigma.

murd0c 09-26-2011 09:23 AM

Isn't Emery broke?

unit 09-26-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tachycardia! (Post 7588381)
Legalize it and tax it to death. Heavily regulate the production houses. Keep the legal consumption areas under watch to satisfy the opponents. And the age limit at 19.

Stiffen fines on street level dealers to weed out the competition. Mandatory prison minimums for people convicted of illegal production of marijuana and property of seizure of those property owners who grow their own stock. Also, mandatory deportation of non-citizens involved in drug related crimes.

Create a marijuana tourism industry and revitalize areas suffering as a result of dollar parity. Work to remove the stigma that everyone who smokes weed will end up a burnout like Tommy Chong or Mark Emery. Find public figures who are well respected and use them to promote it.

Take the marijuana industry out of the hands of the scumbags and the predatory trash and put it into the hands of business people.

And I don't even smoke weed. I hate it. But I think it should be legalized.

i think you should be allowed to grow your own supply.
you're allowed to make your own alcohol, so why not?

unit 09-26-2011 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7591174)
Both are millionaires... If they're burnouts, they've done very well for themselves. If you read Emery's bio he's led a pretty active life, which contradicts the whole "Pot makes you lazy" stigma.

for every successful pothead theres hundreds of lazy ones.
rarely meet people who are daily smokers who are go getters.
not saying you cant amount to anything if you're a pothead, but it opens some doors and closes others.

El Bastardo 09-26-2011 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7591174)
Both are millionaires... If they're burnouts, they've done very well for themselves. If you read Emery's bio he's led a pretty active life, which contradicts the whole "Pot makes you lazy" stigma.


You can be a burnout and have money. Outside of a very select group of people Emery can't be very well received.
Years ago at a 420 celebration I saw him at the art gallery. He looked like hell. And the people he was surrounding himself with weren't exactly the cream of society. He reminded me of that guy whos in his 30s trying to party at a frat party.
Mark Emery is important to a select group of people, but hes not appropriate to be the public face of marijuana legalization. (Nor is Tommy Chong, obviously. Just seeing that guy invokes memories of hippie days gone by of people wearing full denim outfits and going days without bathing)


Find a CEO who is a household name like Steve Jobs, or an actor who is well respected like Jon Hamm, and have them in a very candid campaign admitting they have (or still do) smoked weed and it didn't stop them from being successful. Avoid getting stereotypical figures like Snoop Dogg or Willie Nelson and go for people who society holds in high regard. It'll help bridge the gap for some people

Great68 09-26-2011 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unit (Post 7591192)
for every successful pothead theres hundreds of lazy ones.
rarely meet people who are daily smokers who are go getters.
not saying you cant amount to anything if you're a pothead, but it opens some doors and closes others.

Is that the drug, or their disposition?

Of all of my friends who smoke pot, ALL of them are living successful and productive lives.

Great68 09-26-2011 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tachycardia! (Post 7591200)
You can be a burnout and have money. Outside of a very select group of people Emery can't be very well received.
Years ago at a 420 celebration I saw him at the art gallery. He looked like hell. And the people he was surrounding himself with weren't exactly the cream of society. He reminded me of that guy whos in his 30s trying to party at a frat party.
Mark Emery is important to a select group of people, but hes not appropriate to be the public face of marijuana legalization. (Nor is Tommy Chong, obviously. Just seeing that guy invokes memories of hippie days gone by of people wearing full denim outfits and going days without bathing.

Find a CEO who is a household name like Steve Jobs, or an actor who is well respected like Jon Hamm, and have them in a very candid campaign admitting they have (or still do) smoked weed and it didn't stop them from being successful. Avoid getting stereotypical figures like Snoop Dogg or Willie Nelson and go for people who society holds in high regard. It'll help bridge the gap for some people

I see your point and agree.
I personally can't stand the "Hit dat shit Homie" stereotypical types.

Teh Doucher 09-26-2011 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7591201)
Is that the drug, or their disposition?

Of all of my friends who smoke pot, ALL of them are living successful and productive lives.

No shit, society is fucking retarded. My cousin owns and runs a esso gas station in van and he's smoking all day long more than often. He's also only 24yrs old.. There's so many different types of people that smoke pot out there, but because of stereotypes a lot of them don't admit to smoking. Any of you seen the hot chicks that come in and out of the vapor lounge at the BCMP downtown?
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unit 09-26-2011 09:50 AM

great68:
i think its both really.. cant blame the weed if you're a lazy person to begin with.

theres a reason people dont smoke weed then go study academics but theres also a reason why some people smoke weed then write, draw, make music, etc...

im not saying people who smoke weed cant be successful, thats FAR from the truth. look at obama. he inhaled frequently, that was the point.
just curious are all your successful friends actually potheads or just smoke weed from time to time? cause those are 2 different things.

unit 09-26-2011 09:52 AM

btw ive smoked weed with emery and hes pretty boring to talk to.
starts rambling and you just cant get away from him lol.
he was smoking a 6ft bong and high as fuck at the time too

Phil@rise 09-26-2011 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unit (Post 7591192)
for every successful pothead theres hundreds of lazy ones.
rarely meet people who are daily smokers who are go getters.
not saying you cant amount to anything if you're a pothead, but it opens some doors and closes others.

Same goes for alcoholism.

unit 09-26-2011 10:06 AM

alcoholics are in no way functional at all
thats a downward spiral with really no promise what so ever

Great68 09-26-2011 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unit (Post 7591208)
just curious are all your successful friends actually potheads or just smoke weed from time to time? cause those are 2 different things.

It varies, the majority are weekenders but a few are every day after work smokers. I classify them as successful in that they all work and are able support themselves well. Some of them like to play video games in their free time, others like to build things in their workshops.

Either way, the only way I'd call any of them lazy is if they became welfare or UI sucking sponges.

gars 09-26-2011 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unit (Post 7591208)
im not saying people who smoke weed cant be successful, thats FAR from the truth. look at obama. he inhaled frequently, that was the point.
just curious are all your successful friends actually potheads or just smoke weed from time to time? cause those are 2 different things.

It's very hard to compare weed in the 60's and 70's to weed nowadays. Weed sold now is much, much stronger than weed that Obama smoked.

TheKingdom2000 09-26-2011 10:31 AM

we are the same people that got rid of the HST...
There is no campaign in the world that would educate people about marijuana...

StylinRed 09-26-2011 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tachycardia! (Post 7588381)
Take the marijuana industry out of the hands of the scumbags and the predatory trash and put it into the hands of business people.

:lol

originalhypa 09-26-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7591201)
Of all of my friends who smoke pot, ALL of them are living successful and productive lives.

I have a couple of buddies who smoke daily, and while they work hard and pay their taxes, they sure don't put in any "extra" effort. One buddy is a skilled fabricator and could make good money on the side, but he'd rather get high.

So be it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by unit (Post 7591217)
alcoholics are in no way functional at all
thats a downward spiral with really no promise what so ever

Other than the whole "no promise" thing, you're right. However, an alcoholic, drug addict, etc, can always pull themselves out of the abyss.

What I want to know is why Redlines_Daily failed you.
Maybe he's drunk right now?
:heckno:

jeedee 09-26-2011 01:54 PM

**Awaiting Vansterdam's verdict**

originalhypa 09-26-2011 01:55 PM

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Paris Hilton
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Kevin Spacey
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Billy Joel
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Julia Roberts
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And Charlize Theron with an apple.
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and lots more.
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jeedee 09-26-2011 01:57 PM

You can't forget:

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_le...iy09o1_500.jpg

EmOne 09-26-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeedee (Post 7591455)

http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2...35eaa81838.jpg


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