You, Taylor, did not include a single true rebuttal in your entire response to Dino. Perhaps, it's not Dino who has run out of things to say, but yourself. Furthermore, it's not your superior intelligence that ends these discussions, it's that discussing things with you is exasperating. I could debate a topic with Marco for pages, but you, not so much.

More insults have been included in this discussion by you than anyone else, so it's ironic that you don't post in fight club and criticize others for identical behavior.

Do you have any stats for Alcohol as well?

I'm sure the numbers will change for different schools, backgrounds, and demographics as well.

If this thread goes to FC, our post count will decrease. This thread better not go to FC.

I was craving some Mc Donalds apple pie today.
I stopped by the McDonalds on Victoria + 41st.
damn McD ran out of Apple pie and only had that Oreo one left...

WHAT MCDONALDS RUNS OUT OF FREAKING APPLE PIE??? WTF?

Some of you people have taken the opportunity to have a mature discussion about an interesting approach to youth substance use and used it to soapbox your moral and intellectual points of view.

Not every parent will have the "right" approach to working with their children on substance use and not every point of view that you deem "ineffective" (or as some have stated, "stupid") is necessarily so.

This thread shouldn't've degraded into name calling and finger pointing. Its a discussion, not a bunch of chickens pecking at each other in a coop.

I have no opinion on underage drug use as I'm not a drug user (contrary to what a shocking number of you seem to believe) but I expected more from a group of (supposed) adults.

It absolutely does. Its draining to actually have to look something up and come up with a researched opinion - its easy to write an unresearched off the cuff opinion.

Cause you don't offer facts, you offer off the cuff opinion. Facts trump all, if you cannot offer any in rebuttal the discussion dies quickly. Thus why many cannot debate long with me, they run out of information.

I haven't attacked anyone's family, friends, car, history, ... I have only pointed the ""ineffectiveness" of their "not so smart" opinion. If that's an insult, the shoe fits.

I'm sure you can find some, and they'll be higher. :thumbsup:

"ineffective" is a much better term, thanks! How about "not very smart" instead of "stupid".

The crux of my argument is that its "not very smart" to use "ineffective" techniques when there is so much material available on effective techniques. We spend so much time and effort on academics for our kids. ~90% graduate high school, ~40%+ go to post secondary education - that we should spend just as much if not more educating ourselves in non-academic areas like parenting too - and I think "it is not smart" to not do so.

That said, no-one touched religion in this thread surprisingly. I think what religion teaches is "ineffective" and "not very smart" yet that's not a moral discussion I wish to have.

why is this argument still going on?????????

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :lawl:

fact: bears eat beets

evidence:

Does your GF know that there is a possibility that you will give her child hard drugs? :suspicious:

I am compelled to ask you about strawberry vaginas. Are they on sale this week?

Nope sorry. Finished all of them last night. ;)

Hey kids, don't do drugs. (without me)

Lol gridlock and dinosaur should get fucking points for just posting meaningless off-topic BS instead of addressing the points Taylor and others lay out

Not that I've ever agreed whole heatedly nor had anything against Taylor nor gotten into an argument with him but the way he presents his side has alot more standing then gridlock and dinosaur..

If you guys have kids odds are they will be the one with a needle in their arm when they get thrown into an unknown world from the sheltered fantasy you clowns seem to think is reality.
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fuck you guys, stop arguing about this shit everyone has their opinion whether it's right or wrong

taylor will keep arguing for countless pages if he needs to, and the others will counter argue

HondaRacist, dude I don't know what your panties are in a bunch about.

Really, its everyone else that is not acknowledging our facts.

Like, did you know that your foot is equal in length to your arm between your elbow and your wrist? It's true. I saw it in a movie.

http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/Pre...Julia-Polo.jpg

That's a fucking lie Gridlock and you know it

I don't think Gridlock and Dino should receive points, they've presented and conducted themselves well throughout the thread and having discussed it with other members, I Known, I am not alone in that opinion.

You however, should have been banned multiple times for your racist statements.

lol banned multiple times? the only time i've ever been banned in a period of 10 years on RS was asking for a boxing stream like 4 months ago.. glad i'm considered a racist though because of a fairly neutral stance i took on indians..

fuckin clowns

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