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Cruise ship runs ashore in Italy, Captain abandons ship like a pussy

Captain of grounded cruise ship arrested in Italy - World - CBC News

Kind of old news by this evening...but terrifying for the people on board.

Just like the Titanic, the crew refused to acknowledge a problem and failed to help the people to the life boats.

12 Canadians on board, 2 French and a Peruvian crewman confirmed dead, 69 still unaccounted for.

The Captain was arrested in Italy and charged with involuntary manslaughter and abandoning ship.

Captain is not awesome like this man and his beard, who went down with his ship.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nC3mRZ8yhu...070628_ssv.jpg

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A pair of survivors have been found in a cabin aboard a luxury cruise ship that ran aground off the Tuscan coast of Italy, the ANSA news agency reports.

Firefighters who had been searching the Costa Concordia for dozens who remained missing heard distinct shouts, "one in a male voice, the other in a female voice" coming from the cruiser liner, coast guard officer Marcello Fertitta said.

Fertitta, of the port captain's office in Livorno, told The Associated Press early Sunday that firefighters were having difficulty pinpointing where the pair was on the cruise ship and called in a specialized search team.

'We should have been in the life boats sooner, in my opinion.'— Passenger Alan Willits, of Wingham, Ont.

ANSA said earlier that rescuers had located two survivors in a cabin, and in good condition. A risky search by divers of the sunken, water-filled half of the ship for the missing was suspended at darkness Saturday night.

The trapped survivors were found more than 24 hours after the ship ran aground and lurched violently.

In another development, all Canadians aboard the stricken Costa Concordia are safe.

Based on information currently available, 12 Canadians were on the ship and they are well and accounted for, Foreign Affairs spokesman Claude Rochon said.

Three bodies have been recovered from the sea after the Italian cruise ship with 4,234 people aboard ran aground a few hundred metres off the tiny island of Giglio near the coast of Tuscany late Friday.

Italian officials are matching names on the cruise ship's list of passengers and crew with those of survivors and say the number of the unaccounted for has dropped to roughly 40 from as many as 70. A number of people have been taken to the French port of Marseille.

Earlier Saturday, the captain of the Costa Concordia was was arrested, according to a local prosecutor, and reportedly faces criminal charges.

The captain, Francesco Schettino, was detained for questioning by prosecutors, investigating him for suspected manslaughter, abandoning ship before all others, and causing a shipwreck, state TV and Sky TV said. Prosecutor Francesco Verusio was quoted by ANSA as saying Schettino deliberately chose a sea route that was too close to shore.

ANSA reported Schettino will be held until next week, when a judge will decide whether he should be released or formally put under arrest.

France said two of the victims were Frenchmen; a Peruvian diplomat identified the third victim as Tomas Alberto Costilla Mendoza, 49, a crewman from Peru. Some 30 people were injured, at least two seriously.

Divers with the Italian coast guard headed to the belly of the cruise ship to search for the missing after the ship ran aground Friday night.
Alan and Laurie Willits from Wingham, Ont. escaped in a life boat and are in Rome.Alan and Laurie Willits from Wingham, Ont. escaped in a life boat and are in Rome. (Willits family photo)

Capt. Cosimo Nicastro said Saturday divers were carrying out a risky operation to inspect the submerged half of the Costa Concordia in case anyone remained trapped inside.

Nicastro told Sky TG24 TV rescuers carried out an extensive search of the waters near the ship for hours and "we would have seen bodies," adding that "the place where they might be is in the belly of the ship."

The ship ran aground off the tiny island of Giglio, a popular vacation isle off Italy's central west coast, forcing thousands of passengers to jump into the Mediterranean Sea as water poured in through a 50-metre gash in the hull.

"They didn't send a mayday," officer Emilio Del Santo of the Coastal Authorities of Livorno told CNN. "The ship got in contact with us once the evacuation procedures were already ongoing."

Investigators will be examining how a ship travelling in calm waters, on a route that it normally does more than 50 times a year, could hit such a large rock.

The ship is operated by Costa Crociera SpA, which is owned by the U.S.-based cruise giant Carnival Corp. The Italian firm defended the actions of its crew and said it was co-operating with the investigation. Carnival Corp. issued a statement expressing sympathy that didn't address the allegations of delayed evacuation.

Schettino's lawyer, Bruno Leporatti told the agency: "I'd like to say that several hundred people owed their life to the expertise that the commander of the Costa Concordia showed during the emergency."

A top Costa executive said Saturday that despite some early reports that the captain was dining with passengers when his ship crashed into the reef, he was on the bridge.

"The ship was doing what it does 52 times a year, going along the route between Civitavecchia and Savona," a shaken-looking Gianni Onorato told reporters on Giglio.

He said the captain was an 11-year Costa veteran and that the cruise line was co-operating with Italian investigators to find out what went wrong.

Malcolm Latarche, editor of maritime magazine IHS Fairplay Solutions, said a loss of power coupled with a failure of backup systems could have caused the crew to lose control.

"I would say power failure caused by harmonic interference and then it can't propel straight or navigate and it hit rocks," Latarche said.

Two French passengers and a Peruvian crewman died in the accident, the Italian news agency ANSA reported. News reports said 69 people were still unaccounted for after the Costa Concordia hit a sandbar near the coast of Tuscany.
Costa Cruises statement

"Captain [Francesco] Schettino, who was on the bridge at the time, immediately understood the severity of the situation and performed a maneuver intended to protect both guests and crew, and initiated security procedures to prepare for an eventual ship evacuation.

Unfortunately, that operation was complicated by a sudden tilting of the ship that made disembarkation difficult.”

Some of the people aboard the Costa Concordia jumped and swam 350 metres to the island of Giglio. Others scrambled into lifeboats.

A couple from Wingham, Ont., are among the Canadian survivors. Alan and Laurie Willits were watching the magic show in the ship's main theatre when they felt an initial lurch, as if from a severe steering manoeuvre.

"[The ship] steered quickly to the right, the ship banked. It was sliding us out of our seats … and then there was a shudder. You could tell we definitely hit something," Willits told CBC News in a telephone interview from Rome on Saturday.

Willits said it took some time before passengers were informed of how serious the problem was.

"They were saying it was a generator problem. A generator problem would not make a ship start leaning," Willits said. "We should have been in the life boats sooner, in my opinion."

When the ship — carrying 4,234 passengers and crew — began listing, the signal to abandon ship was sounded. By Saturday morning, the ship could be seen lying on its side in the water.
Rocks emerge from the damaged side of the luxury cruise ship Costa Concordia that run aground the tiny Tuscan island of Giglio, Italy, on Saturday.Rocks emerge from the damaged side of the luxury cruise ship Costa Concordia that run aground the tiny Tuscan island of Giglio, Italy, on Saturday. (Gregorio Borgia/Associated Press)

"Passengers were eating dinner. It was around 9:35," CBC's Megan Williams said, reporting from Rome. "The ship groaned and the lights went out."

"They were told at the time that there was a short-circuit, that they had in fact not crashed. Other information has shown that in fact they did crash. They probably hit the rocks off the island of Giglio, which is about a mile off the coast of Tuscany. The ship should have been about six miles off the coast, so something clearly went wrong."

A lot of the lifeboats were apparently filled with water by the time passengers got to them, according to media reports.

Passengers complained the crew failed to give instructions on how to evacuate and once the emergency became clear, delayed lowering the lifeboats until the ship was listing too heavily for many of them to be released.
Costa Cruises history

2010: Two collisions, power failure blamed.
2009: Engine problems, fire in generator room.
2008: Almost collided with car transporter.

Crew member Fabio Costa described a chaotic scene near one of the lifeboats.

Google"Everything happened really, really fast. We saw the water coming in and the emergency signal, and everybody went to the place to try to get on the boat, but people started to panic. So they were pushing each other," he said.

"The crew was trying to help the passengers. A lot of people were falling down the stairs and they were hurt because things fell on them. When they had to get on the lifeboat, everyone was pushing each other, so it was pretty chaotic."

Helicopters plucked to safety about 50 people who were trapped on the ship after it listed so badly they couldn't launch lifeboats, Coast Guard Cmdr. Francesco Paolillo told The Associated Press in Rome by telephone from his command in the Tuscan port city of Livorno.

Failboat arrived, literally. RIP to those who passed away.

so sad that the captain was such a pussy...

RIP to all those people.

That is probably one of my worst nightmares.

RIP.

1:57 in the video..
two canadians swim to shore a few hundred meters away...
and they were pretty old.. lol crazy!

Man that's sad still
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Power failure must be the standard excuse when things go wrong. Along with, the backup systems didn't work.

Besides that, it sounds like there is lack of procedures when it comes to evacuation of passengers.

There were reports that when the passengers reached safety/shore, there was more chaos. Nobody seemed to know what to do. Fail, fail, and more fail.

RIP to those who did not make it out alive.

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Passengers complained the crew failed to give instructions on how to evacuate and once the emergency became clear, delayed lowering the lifeboats until the ship was listing too heavily for many of them to be released.

Next time someone wants to complain about how much BC Ferries staff get paid, keep in mind that EVERY CREW MEMBER on those boats has to be Transport Canada certified in safety procedures - even the janitor has been fully trained in how to help you get off the boat safely.

still a lot missing, i bet some might still be trapped in some air pockets.

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 7761355)

Cruise lines take safety very seriously too, or so they say, and I'm sure they practice drills all the time. I'm not saying a crew member on a cruise ship being paid pennies is as trained as BC ferries staff, but in the event of an emergency, many people just panic and all hell breaks loose!

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Originally Posted by SpartanAir (Post 7760824)

12 Canadians on board, 2 French and a Peruvian crewman confirmed dead, 69 still unaccounted for.

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In another development, all Canadians aboard the stricken Costa Concordia are safe.

:seriously:

ive never gotten the point of going on a cruise for vacation...

1. expensive as fuck
2. your in a small room with a tiny ass window
3. your cramped on the ship with 2000 other people
4. all you see is ocean for days until you reach port
5. sea sick
6. boring as fuck...

i rather just spend that money and have a safe trip in a nice resort.

Crew members were nowhere to be seen. Perhaps they jumped ship first and then called for the evacuation, LOLOLOLOLOL.

Yeah, more like earthquake preparedness......... you can never be prepared for the real thing. If people stayed calm, everyone would most likely make it out alive, but when you see people running for their lives and blocking the doorway and shit, it's panic city - everybody for themselves.

As soon as they hit the rock, they should have started abandoning ship. No point in waiting till it's too late. Why even take a chance?

I bet the crew was not paying attention. Probably watching porn or making their own porn. Those Italians...........:Pbjt:

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Originally Posted by Anjew (Post 7761359)

still a lot missing, i bet some might still be trapped in some air pockets.

really ugly way to die.........

Prayers go out. Hope they rescue as many as possible and not give up. They say shallow waters, so maybe they can get to any people who are still trapped alive.

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Originally Posted by WolfGang (Post 7761369)

:suspicious:
Have been on a cruise before?

Depending on the season and the ship, it's not necessarily that expensive,
or any more expensive than living in a hotel for a few days / week in some city.

Most people going on a cruise don't go for hanging out in a cabin.
Some people with money might live in the big suites, but most probably don't care, and only stay
in the cabin to shower and sleep.

There's enough stuff to do on the ship, especially if you go with a bunch of friends.
And if your single, there's nothing stopping you from meeting some girls, and the fact you will probably
hook up faster because you're stuck in a ship with them for many days.

Not everyone is prone to sea sickness.

And not to mention if you like eating good food, all your meals are paid for, and you're pretty much fine dining everyday.

So while I will admit, being on a cruise is not for everyone, I wouldn't completely write it out as pointless.

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Originally Posted by WolfGang (Post 7761369)

4. all you see is ocean for days until you reach port

So take an Alaskan cruise, something that follows the shoreline.

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Originally Posted by WolfGang (Post 7761369)

1) Define "expensive as fuck". You can go on a 7-day cruise on some of the newest/biggest ships in the Caribbean for around $1,000, which is $150 per day. That includes entertainment, all you can eat food, and lodging. What is not included is tips and booze.

2) Actually if you get the cheapest room, you don't even have a window...

3) The largest ships can carry 5000+ passengers... :p

4) For a 7 day cruise, there are usually 3 days "at sea".

5) Depending on where you're sailing, you might not even notice that you're on a boat.

6) There are TONS of activities. You can do whatever you want - wake up early and participate in everything, just work on your suntan all day, or anything in between.

Going to a resort, you can only visit one location. Want to visit another town? You gotta pack up and waste time at the airport and on planes. On a cruise ship, you can unpack on day 1 and it'll sail to your next destination at night.

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Originally Posted by WolfGang (Post 7761369)

I agree with some of your points...

1. Not really....it is comparable to an all-inclusive resort
2. The rooms are small, and if you don't have a balcony the windows are not the greatest. Not to mention, we were on the lower deck so most of the time our window was under water....it was a little trippy.
3. It does suck being around thousands of people all the time, but the ships are big enough that it you don't notice it all the time.
4. That can happen. Took a 7 day cruise to Alaska...we had 6 hours in Juneau , 4 hours in Skagway, 5 hours in Ketchikan...not a lot of time off the ship, but those towns are SMALL and there is not a lot to do.
5. It was very rocky and I spend the first night on my knees with my head in the toilet.
6. Truth.

A few years ago my fam took a 7 day cruise to Alaska...and I will agree that it is boring a fuck. It probably didn't help that the cruises to Alaska tend to appeal to an older crowd. The ship was dead at 8pm and the casino was void of life after 8pm. There was not a lot to do except for swimming in the pool (which was closed most of the week) and sit in the hot tub. It was full of americans who seemed to make a sport out of eating. The food was OK, but it was very rich, HUGE portions, and for the most part really generic.

It also literally felt like we were traveling for 7 days straight (yes, i know we technically were) but it was not all that relaxing. We are always waiting to "get somewhere". If felt weird being waited on 24/7 by crew members who were being paid peanuts and the customer service was pretty fake (although everyone was nice).

Unlike all-inclusive resorts, but drinks are not included, which sucked b/c they were not cheap. The only thing I did enjoy was getting dress-up for dinner every night....but thats probably b/c I am a girl.

Would I take a cruise again? fuck no. I felt it was restrictive, boring, and when I got home, I didn't feel like I was just on vacation for a week...not very relaxing.

Maybe it would be different if it was a cruise in Mexico or the Caribbean?

I've heard a mix of good and bad stories about the Alaskan Cruise. Some have gone many times on the same cruise. One person has even gone seven times (WTF?).

I would go just for the scenery. And no, I'm not talking about women. I do look at other scenery, too.

I love water. I guess I'm used to it, spending countless hours/days on a small fishing boat n my younger days. One day, when my ship comes in, I will be able to take a few cruises up and down the coast and then do a Caribbean Cruise or Ocean Liner (Queen Mary 2).

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Caribbean cruises are the bees knees!!!! Totally different from Alaska. Tons more fun!!!!

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Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 7761665)

I would go just for the scenery. And no, I'm not talking about women. I do look at other scenery, too.

It was really pretty, but no different than B.C. I was disappointed that we were too far from the coast line to see anything however...I was looking forward to seeing Haida Gwaii, but we passed at night.

It never felt like we were in Alaska as the port cities looked identical to B.C. We took the gondola up to the top of a mountain in Juneau and they had a little animal habitat building...there were 2-3 bald eagles in cages tied to a wood stump...was pretty depressing. A lot of americans were FREAKING out b/c they had never seen one so I guess we just take that from granted living here. Felt sorry for the eagles as they were dirty, tied down, and a little mangy.

Honestly, for the scenery....i'd rather just take a coastal road trip.

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Originally Posted by skyxx (Post 7761669)

Caribbean cruises are the bees knees!!!!

:haha:

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Originally Posted by skyxx (Post 7761669)

Caribbean cruises are the bees knees!!!! Totally different from Alaska. Tons more fun!!!!

Yup. I did a 9 day Caribbean cruise a few years back. For us, the only time we were on the water was at night while we slept, except for one day when we passed through the Bermuda Triangle. The rest of the time you'd spend basically all day on land at your latest destination. It's definitely a far cry from the Alaskan cruises.

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Originally Posted by SpartanAir (Post 7760824)

Just like the Titanic, the crew refused to acknowledge a problem and failed to help the people to the life boats.

Many officers and crew, including the Captain, remained on the ship to the very end. Even the band employed by the ship, who were not obligated to remain aboard or assist in any way, continued to play music till the end to help keep everyone calm. The knowledge that the ship was sinking was not made public in order to prevent a panic and the crew had difficulty convincing passengers to get into lifeboats early on. Many people did not understand the severity of the situation.