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Dogs are treated like a person, they wouldnt put a person into danger like that if the guy has an AXE. The guys comment in the video "Didnt have to shoot him, couldve baton'd him or something" Is pretty stupid. I am not going to attempt to even baton a guy if hes holding a damn AXE... If only that other cop got out his taser in time, then while he was down release the dog, wouldve been better. But split second decisions |
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Some idiot won the Darwin award. Exciting. |
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i agree with the gun, the guy certainly looks older than 15, anybody at that age should know you will get pwn when u swing an axe at the po po |
You shoot to preserve life or grevious bodily harm. Somebody with an axe who starts swinging at you, your partner and some Police dogs, is not behaving rationally. A rational person would have dropped the axe as he was ordered. This BS about shooting somebody in the legs or shooting the axe out of his hand is the result of too many Holywood movies. In real life in a stress situation, it is almost impossible. While the bullets miss the axe weilder gets to continue his actions. As far as 1 shot being enough, from personal experience, hitting someone twice in the centre mass does not stop them. It took a high tackle by four of us after the guy was shot to bring him down when he dropped the knife. The normal method is two shots to centre mass and the third to the head. Re-assess and repeat until the danger is neutralized. In this video we don't know how many shots hit him and what kind of impact they had. This is life and death, not some video game. |
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To me, it looks like the cop (not holding the dog) got suprised when he looked up and saw the suspect facing him followed by the other officer's gunfire. As a reaction, he draws his gun and fires at the suspect that has his back turned. Also want to mention that, if infact it was the 2nd cop who fired, note that then the first cop actually stopped firing(did his bullets run out?). Although they are trained for this, could it have been a split second situation mistake |
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I for one will start throwing whatever I got to defend myself. |
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The axe carrier may well have turned back towards the Police and continued the attack. He had attempted capital murder against them already and they were taking no chances. People can cover short distances in very short periods of time and the Police experience is that someone with an edged weapon who is within 21 feet will very likely be able to kill you unless they are stopped. He seems within that distance, as was the case in the shooting I was involved with. When people get shot they don't go flying backwards or drop immediately ( unless head shot) and they are quite capable of continuing to harm you, specially when they are driven by drugs/alcohol/mental goals which override pain compliance. |
Shots were justified to end the situation, and neutralize the suspect. |
An axe is much more deadly than a stapler. I have no problem with how the police handled themselves here. |
For all of you saying it was too many shots, or why didnt' they shoot his legs etc., police are trained to use lethal force when required to fire a gun, and only fire if you are prepared to do so. Nothing against what was done. Don't motion to swing an axe at a police officer when a gun is pointed at you. Really, now.... |
Yeah, you "can" do many things that don't involve killing him. You "can" sweep legs, use the dog or baton the fuck out of him. You also "can" risk the chance that you may not go home that night. No one forced him to have an axe there, or smash out the windows just for shits and giggles and no one certainly forced him to step back on the officer in a show of power. The key here is as Great68 said, there is a difference between a stapler and an axe, thus, the reason for one case being brought up on police brutality, and the other being celebrated as an example of, although tragic**, but justified use of a police weapon. **I say tragic for loss of a better word, in that a man died at the hands of another, but the idea here is he started down that path. |
So turns out that one of the officers did deploy and hit the subject, Steven Rodriquez with his tazer but it had no effect. |
http://darwin-online.org.uk/graphics/Darwin1881s.jpg on another note, when officers have their guns drawn on you drop whatever the fuck's in your hand down and cooperate |
Thinking about it more now. I think there needs to be more training on the cops end. For these types of situations. They were way to close to the suspect in the first place, imo. I mean that one cop could have been maimed easily. They shouldn't be in that situation in the first place. But, it's always easier said than done. |
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Police use 9mm hollow points so when the round enters a body, the ballistics mushroom on contact to disperse max damage through the organs. |
Gordon Freeman just couldn't stay away from the bars... |
The axe swinger made threatening gestures at the cops. -definitely on the cop's side in this incident. |
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In this situation they already knew the suspect wouldn't cooperate and they don't want anyone else get injured so they did the right thing. |
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