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Old 01-29-2012, 07:52 AM   #1
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More internet censor bs

It seems like they are just going to keep trying to pass bills till people get tired and "forget" to protest against one. If anyone of these bills stick we are F'd.
ACTA is worse than SOPA, here's what you need to know
As a warrior for Internet freedom, you helped defeat the Stop Online Piracy Act, or SOPA by supporting Web black outs by sites like Wikipedia and by contacting your lawmaker to voice your displeasure. So loud was your voice that even the president of the United States sided with you in opposing it.

But don't take a deep sigh of relief because, after all, we're talking about a merger of Washington, D.C., and Hollywood here, as well as global interests. After the motion picture industry, its subsidiaries and all "interested parties" have spent nearly $150 million lobbying for some sort of Internet-centric "anti-piracy" bill, you should have known the powers that be would return.

And they have, only this time they are pushing something far more onerous: ACTA, or the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement.

"Although the proposed treaty's title might suggest that the agreement deals only with counterfeit physical goods (such as medicines) what little information has been made available publicly by negotiating governments about the content of the treaty makes it clear that it will have a far broader scope and in particular will deal with new tools targeting 'Internet distribution and information technology'", says an assessment of ACTA by the watchdogs at the Electronic Freedom Foundation.

"ACTA has several features that raise significant potential concerns for consumers' privacy and civil liberties for innovation and the free flow of information on the Internet [regarding] legitimate commerce and for developing countries' ability to choose policy options that best suit their domestic priorities and level of economic development," says EFF's assessment.

As is usually the case with dubious, rights-stripping legislation, ACTA - which Forbes.com reports was signed by the U.S. in 2011 and has already been sanctioned as well by Japan, Switzerland and many European Union nations - has largely been negotiated in the shadows and, thus, has largely been devoid of scrutiny... until now.

While the Obama administration was shying away from SOPA, it has been aggressively pursuing ACTA (full disclosure: the process was started under the Bush administration). Critics say it is much more far-reaching than SOPA, bypassing "the sovereign laws of participating nations" and "forcing ISP's across the globe to act as internet police," Forbes said.

But ACTA isn't limited just to the Internet. In fact, the agreement would crack down things like generic drugs and would make food patents more difficult to obtain "by enforcing a global standard on seed patents that threatens local farmers and food independence across the developed world," Forbes says.

The good thing is, there is not universal acceptance of ACTA and its onerous, liberty-stealing provisions. Emerging nations like Brazil and India are adamantly opposed to it for rightfully fearing its provisions would harm their economies.

But Internet freedom is also under attack from other quarters as well. The EFF also notes that the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, which is a separate measure, would "rewrite the global rules on IP enforcement".

"All signatory countries will be required to conform their domestic laws and policies to the provisions of the Agreement," said the EFF assessment. "In the U.S. this is likely to further entrench controversial aspects of U.S. copyright law. The recently leaked U.S. IP chapter also includes provisions that appear to go beyond current U.S. law. This raises significant concerns for citizens' due process, privacy and freedom of expression rights."

SOPA may be history but that doesn't mean Internet freedom does not remain under assault. Tyrants never stop trying to enforce tyranny.


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question: a lotta pll these days use blockers like peerblock etc when downloading torrents. so with these bills is it not so much us consumers who dl torrents that are in danger, but moreso sites like piratebay that may be shut down leaving us with nowhere to go for dling our shit?

if that really is the case im sure there will be a workaround. sure this is bigger than what happened with napster etc but i truly think that where theres a bs law there will always be a smart workaround that will become the norm until the next bs law comes around
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Wonder what it is that bothers me that somebody who steals someone's intellectual property should be unhappy with the fact that the victim of the theft is upset. Where does it say that someone can take somebody else's music, designs, literature, artwork etc and copy it off and sell/give it away so that the designer gets ripped off and gets no $$ for their creativity and work. I have a major problem with the concept that everybody feel entitled to steal from somebody else just because they want to and because it's on the net. Where am I going wrong here? What part of theft do we not get?
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Forget Washington, Canada has already signed ACTA! http://www.revscene.net/forums/66198...than-sopa.html
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The solutoin is for a free speech type bill on the internet to block a new bill every week from censoring the internet. Forget to fight for your freedom one week and one bill sneaks by badabing badaboom.
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Guys, do your part to help out, this literally takes 2 minutes to find your local MP, and send a letter to them stating that you disagree with where this is going

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Wonder what it is that bothers me that somebody who steals someone's intellectual property should be unhappy with the fact that the victim of the theft is upset. Where does it say that someone can take somebody else's music, designs, literature, artwork etc and copy it off and sell/give it away so that the designer gets ripped off and gets no $$ for their creativity and work. I have a major problem with the concept that everybody feel entitled to steal from somebody else just because they want to and because it's on the net. Where am I going wrong here? What part of theft do we not get?
In common usage, theft is the illegal taking of another person's property without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner
here lies the confusion as to what people protesting ACTA is really protesting about. It is NOT protesting for the freedom to copy/steal copyrighted content but protesting what provisions included in ACTA that are worded very vaguely and could be used against us without due process. this has already been observed in cases where the MPAA would stretch definitive to further their goals.
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i dun if this fits here but i was just to look for top gear season 18 ep1 on google, i was trying see if i can find a place where i can watch it online but each time i click on a site it just says Unable to connect to the Internet

ok fine, i think is just china being gay but then when i go to the 2nd page of google it just goes Unable to connect to the Internet or some other crap like that & it happens everytime

so now im thinking if its just my crappy internet in china or is google starting the whole censor & copyright thing as they are pro with SOPA
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Google isn't "pro" with SOPA.
And it's not your crappy internet in China.
China themselves censor things online already.
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