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^ Do you really think the sales guy gives a shit about losing a deal that had no money in it for him to begin with? I'm happy to make a skinny deal and get a unit bonus.. but if it becomes a shit ton of work and I'm not making any money on it.. I'm not going to lose any sleep if the customer walks. |
For the TSX Tech I picked as my new daily driver in Dec, I did all my negotiations with Burrard Acura through mostly email and a couple of phone calls, found that to be so easy, especially with my busy schedule. I was a returning customer to Burrard Acura, so that might explain why they were more willing to do the majority of my negotiations with me through email. |
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I'm not arguing that you should try and get a price break on a 2011 vs a 2012, but the price difference is not that big... you are already getting a $4,000 rebate that you would not get on the 2012, and that's pretty much the difference in value, or even more. Mark |
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Looks like you've never bought anything of significant value in your life. Posted via RS Mobile |
late Dec/early Jan.. dealing with Langley Acura on negotiating on trading in my 08 RDX for an 08 TL-S. Initially made a lowball offer and had a discussion with the sales manager directly. He basically said 'look, that TypeS will sell at whatever price i put it on.. it is in excellent condition..i knew the owner and he took immaculate care of it"... So.. waited a few days..salesperson called me and asked if i wanted to make another offer..and so i did.. much more reasonable...again, sales manager refused ..we were approx $1000 apart. Waited a few days... i called the salesperson to follow up.. "so are we done here? you guys are holding out on me for that difference?"..sales guy responds "ok i will try again"... i follow up and he responds ".. i tried everyone here.. we still cant agree to your offer".. i respond "ok, i'm moving on ..thanks for your efforts!". I move on and pick up a TL from Lougheed Acura. Not even a day later, the langley manager calls me "ok lets do this"..i tell him.. 'dude, i got a car already'. that TL-S ( as well as 2 others) is still sitting on their lot. |
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hahahaha I did the exact same thing, I LOVE when that happens, when you tell them you already got another car on the phone, their like, :okay: thatl learn em |
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Usually lower priced cars have higher profit margins. E.g. 10K car can ask for 14500 and sell for 13000 22K car can ask for 25-26K and sell for 24K. It all depends on the specific unit you are looking at. If you were looking at new car vs new car at langley vs burrard. they would have given you similar trade. |
I pulled a CCC report on the car: 2011 Acura RDX AWD 4dr Tech Pkg Retail Price * Wholesale Price ** Base $42,490.00 $39,091.00 Freight $1,895.00 $1,895.00 Optional equipment selected - FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00 Totals including all items above $44,485.00 $41,086.00 Keep in mind ALL manufacturer incentives/rebates apply AFTER the whole sale price, because $41086 is the how much the dealer paid. The rebates comes from the manufacturer so the dealer could care less. With the $4000 rebate that you said Acura gives, then you are looking at $41086-4000+HST. Also, there may be some misc levies/tax such as tire tax, dealership fee, etc. These fees can be waived if you are good at negotiation. |
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^Well they did say they would still lose $1xxx.00 by selling to me at that price, so either they lied or something else is stopping them from selling to me. Sales guy did call today, apoligized for promising us 42, 42.5, then going to 43, then to 43.5, said he would get us an amazing deal on any pre-owned. We'll see how that goes. On another note, theres an 08 tech for super cheap, ------ 2008 Acura RDX Technology 82K AWD GPS Leather FulLoaded Blue -- called and asked for info, told us there was a front end collision repaired at $4xxx.xx Part of me is telling me it's okay if we go get an inspection done, but other part is saying stay away cuz theres no telling what the owner knows about it. |
It's not unlikely at all. That is just the cost for the car itself, there is still financing which on a unit in stock for 6+ months is easily $500, registration/pack ($250+ at most new car stores), etc. Burrard Acura's property is worth $5M+ itself... the monthly mortgage payment on that ALONE would be $25k+. Mark |
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Nothing against the dealership, and also no hard feelings for the salesman. I think that he did do his best to get that price, but just couldn't do it. If anything, the one complaint would be the attitude he held over the phone while trying to tell us we wouldn't find a better deal. Also wanna say thanks to jaemc for trying to help us find a deal. Quote:
Should buyer always pay 100% for the inspection? Or should we sort something out for something like 50-50 buyer-seller? |
You want the car, you pay. Unless he's a really motivated seller. |
$1g difference , big fucking deal YOu really think dealership gives a rat ass shit about losing one customer? meh |
you're an idiot, if you grind the guy for 1000 off on already discounted car, that's been sitting their for a year.. go buy a fucking honda or toyota. hes working his ass off to get you a deal and get himself a number on the board and all you do is sit on the other end of the phone and go "no". hate people like you. dont buy a luxury car if you cannot afford it. |
shoulda got a base model CRV instead acting cocky like the dealership is gonna suck ur dick and beg u to buy the car |
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Would you still buy it? Nobody says we cant afford it, when you're buying a car for 40k+ usually you dont care about little extra. But in this case we felt that we were being taken advantage over. So we called the deal off and looked for another steal of the deal. |
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You offered $42 and the salesman thought that was reasonable - but he never confirmed that it was POSSIBLE. The sales manager told him AT LEAST $43k, which clearly means it could be more. Not sure why you then offered $42,5K when they told you it would be AT LEAST $43,5k. I would go as far as saying that the salesperson failed you by setting your discount expectation higher than he should have in the first place. I can say that because I've done it myself. (shot myself in the foot by doing so) Even after 5 years of doing this I still make mistakes, everyone does. It's an easy trap for a salesperson to fall into - suggesting it might be possible to get $$$$ discount, before he's checked with the manager to actually see what kind of discount is possible. The problem is the customer gets that expectation in his head and when he doesn't get the price, it doesn't seem like a good deal anymore, even if it still IS a good deal in reality. Basically, it's not always about the final price, but rather 'how you get to' the final price. |
Also, for people who are using car cost to find invoice on a car, it doesn't tell you the whole story. You don't know what it costs the dealer in interest to have that car on the lot, the overhead for property and staff and other associated costs, BEFORE they start making any clean profit. |
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