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This may be off topic, but has anyone noticed they still install the analog meters on brand new houses in the areas where the smart meters aren't installed yet? IMO, that is a waste of money |
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christy crunch wants to sell our natural gas to china and basically said yesterday that rates are going to have to rise for us to accommodate selling to asia :crazy2: |
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i installed a Electric on demand water heater.. i have a family.. i need to use electricity at the peak hours... it is NOT ok for the poorly run company to bill me more. as the cost of everything goes up and the wages stay the same, how is that fair... i don't get a 16 - 30 % raise over 3 years. The people that work for hydro are over paid and under worked.. if the smart meter wasn't made a big deal of then we would have peak hour billing a lot sooner.. and your bill would be significantly higher. they want all this money for infrastructure.. read this and tell me your still OK with it.. B.C. Hydro deferring billions in debt, watchdog says Remember this is a company losing money on something that they MAKE and already have their infrastructure in place... how is this possible. |
Well, the smart meters have a price tag of $1 billion. There is a reason right there to dislike this program. How much do you need to increase rates, or decrease costs to pay for that? |
holy shit i wasnt aware of that astronomical fee behind the smart meters..... jesus Im against them now too but too little too late i suppose |
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<sarcasm>Great idea. Let's use less electricity so that we can have some extra to sell to the Americans. </sarcasm> If I were a criminal, it would be very valuable to have some sort of way to read other people's smart meters. Just look at the neighborhood's information for a month and figure out when people are home or away, then go on a robbing spree. Seems like a cash grab to me. BC Hydro obviously wants more money as of late. I am an electrician and we usually set up the privately owned poles + electrical service (mast/meterbase/etc.) for all of these houses... but in West Van, BC Hydro has some sort of new code where they have to do it as of now. They must be hungry for more money. |
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Let me google that for you You could also sit outside a block of houses for a few days and get plenty of info about people's comings and goings... probably lot more info that you'd get from simply reading their meters. |
With the old meters we are being charged by kilowatt hours (1000 watts being used for one hour) being read by a meter reader once a month. With the new smart meters we are being charged by the kWh data constantly being sent to BC Hydro, plus we get charged more during peak hours. More ways to get nickled and dimed to death. Quote:
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Now with smart meters, if you were actually able to tap into the information, you wouldn't need all of those people. -and I know how to read an electric meter, we learn that in school in first year. |
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His is about 15c more than mine. He says "How come you're charging me more 'cause it's cold?" Guy doesn't miss a beat. He says "How come 7-11 doesn't charge you less if you buy a 2L that's warm?" |
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And you're assuming every two-bit hood is CIA trained, or something. The people who would go to all this trouble, are not the type of people who just want to bust in your door and steal your TV. I think you've been watching too many movies, expecting James Bond to come through your door looking for the stolen plans to the secret military satellite. |
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In their display they had various "smart" appliances which tell you when peak hours are and you could set up a timer for the clothes washer or drying to turn on at a certain hour. More cash grab for "smart" appliances. |
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Obviously, this doesn't apply to everyone... some people prefer to just let their imaginations run wild rather than actually using their brains |
Whether they are charging more at different hours or not right now, I have ZERO doubt in my mind that its coming and its happening. Perfect storm: Bunch of politicos on the global warming bandwagon, new tech that allows it, $1 billion price tag to cover. I don't know if I necessarily think its "horrible" as it would help a lot with load balancing on the grid. Rates are going to go up regardless, so at least you'd have some way to navigate a lower bill. On the flip side, I think a lot of people are stuck with the energy pattern they use...you can't just superheat your home at 2 am and hope it keeps for the day. Using the dryer at 2 am in the morning is one thing, but the energy usage on a dishwasher not set to dry and a washing machine is not 'that' large. Its the heat creating appliances that use massive electricity. |
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imo i think the smart meters are a step forward, water imo needs to be regulated even more (no charge but investigations made on houses large consumptions). i know and see tons of people wasting water its so infuriating.. one example would be one of my neighbors would have a external faucet leaking in the side of the house and would not fix it for MONTHS...... another would be my mom not telling me about a broken trip lever in the toilet tank which didnt allow a water tight seal around the flush valve. it must have leaked for weeks before she told me. basic calculation of water waste would yield terrifying numbers.... =( |
Firstly, Soundy. I enjoy talking to you and reading your posts, because you a very good and entertaining troll. There are also people with smart appliances that use their brains to control their hands to wash clothes in a sink. Believe it or not this uses no electrical energy. :-) Quote:
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I actually don't care if they want to change it.. BUT I was fucking pissed about the fact that they went to the back of my house without telling me, and changed it WHICH caused a minute or so power outage.. Couldn't they have given a little warning? Lost a bit of progress on my essay because of that asshole. He also quickly ran to his car without saying a word when I wanted to speak with him (I heard him walk to my doorstep to put the tag on my doorknob). Wanted to phone and complain but was too behind on homework at the time. Anyone else have similar experience? |
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Benjamin Franklin (sometimes Thomas Jefferson) is often quoted as saying: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. "Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither." -- KEVIN CRAIG - "Liberty Under God" Beginning in Missouri's 7th Congressional District Quote:
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A service provider that you have hired measuring the use of that service hardly seems like an assault on liberty. |
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