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FerrariEnzo 02-14-2012 02:49 AM

Apple launches new legal attack on Samsung phones
 
Apple launches new legal attack on Samsung phones

"In addition to the California cases, Apple and Samsung are waging more than 20 legal fights in at least 10 countries in their war for global leadership of smartphone and tablet markets."


WTF is wrong with APPLE... they are crying like a baby...
If you can beat, SUE them... lmao

bcrdukes 02-14-2012 02:53 AM

Apple is gay.

Sue that, bitches.

asian_XL 02-14-2012 02:59 AM

Meanwhile, Apple is being sued in China by Proview, all ipad2 are now off the shelves in many region in China lol
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FerrariEnzo 02-14-2012 04:09 AM

Apple should that it and IMPROVE on something..

Voice search isnt new... Google's voice recognition, IMO is still better then Apple's..

Next thing you know, Apple will come out with the Face unlock and SUE Google over that... really pathetic..

Shit Stir Stick is what Apple is...

SkinnyPupp 02-14-2012 04:18 AM

The legacy of Steve Jobs douchebagotry continues. He wanted to "destroy" Android, and is the reason they filed all those suits, which was a horrible decision. They are getting killed in the smartphone market by Android phones overall, and all this suing did nothing but bring on countersuits. Going after HTC in particular was a bad idea, as the chairperson's husband is the CEO of VIA, and that opened up a whole bunch of suits that Apple is going to lose.

Eventually I think a trade commission will try to put an end to this nonsense...

ilovebacon 02-14-2012 05:13 AM

lmfao!!!!! it is a half bitten apple.

cctw 02-14-2012 07:28 AM

edit:..nevermind my previous post..

apple should stop this nonsense though

GLOW 02-14-2012 07:52 AM

samsung's response...

:rukidding:
:accepted:

RacePace 02-14-2012 07:58 AM

Doesn't Samsung sell parts to Apple? I would pull back those deals

SkinnyPupp 02-14-2012 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacePace (Post 7796449)
Doesn't Samsung sell parts to Apple? I would pull back those deals

They can't really do that.. but they certainly aren't making new ones! And that leaves Apple with not the best screens in the business...

twitchyzero 02-14-2012 09:07 AM

LG makes the IPS screens for Apple
but yes Samsung does make some of the internals for the iphone
if they pulled out there would just be other companies lined up.

instead of these costly lawsuits why not focus on being more innovative...

dangonay 02-14-2012 09:48 AM

It'll be hilarious when Nexus owners get their next update and in the description it reads "XXX feature has been disabled/removed". Which is what the outcome will be, just like it has been in previous cases. Apple sues, Samsung/HTC/whoever removes features and life goes on.

In other news, the DOJ just approved yesterday the sale of Nortel's patents to the Apple/MS/RIM group. Good thing too - the last company you'd want to get those patents would be Google/Motorola. That would be very bad for the industry.

SkinnyPupp 02-14-2012 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangonay (Post 7796534)
It'll be hilarious when Nexus owners get their next update and in the description it reads "XXX feature has been disabled/removed". Which is what the outcome will be, just like it has been in previous cases. Apple sues, Samsung/HTC/whoever removes features and life goes on.

In other news, the DOJ just approved yesterday the sale of Nortel's patents to the Apple/MS/RIM group. Good thing too - the last company you'd want to get those patents would be Google/Motorola. That would be very bad for the industry.

Yes, HTC removed the "feature" that detected UPS tracking numbers and turned them into URLs. oh noes.

Samsung is removing some heuristics programming from the touch interface. Nobody will ever know.

As far as Google using patents on the Nexus, what?

dangonay 02-14-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacePace (Post 7796449)
Doesn't Samsung sell parts to Apple? I would pull back those deals

You think the Semiconductor division of Samsung is going to throw away the billions of dollars Apple buys from them because the mobile division is having a few dis-agreements with Apple over their competing devices? More like the semiconductor division is pissed at whoever is in charge of the mobile division for rocking the boat.

As much as these lawsuits might be costing Samsung, they are miniscule in comparison to how much money Samsung makes off Apple.

If you ran a company, would you cancel $8 billion in orders over $100 million in lawsuits? How would you explain that to shareholders?

dangonay 02-14-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7796379)
The legacy of Steve Jobs douchebagotry continues. He wanted to "destroy" Android, and is the reason they filed all those suits, which was a horrible decision. They are getting killed in the smartphone market by Android phones overall, and all this suing did nothing but bring on countersuits. Going after HTC in particular was a bad idea, as the chairperson's husband is the CEO of VIA, and that opened up a whole bunch of suits that Apple is going to lose.

Eventually I think a trade commission will try to put an end to this nonsense...

Apple won't be investigated by any trade commissions since they have done nothing illegal. However, Samsung is now the target of a formal anti-trust investigation by the EU. This is a result of their three failed attempts to get the iPhone 4S banned in Germany, Italy and France. Problem is they used FRAND patents which is a big no-no. Plus they tried to double-dip Apple for licensing fees and their argument was quickly thrown out by not one, but three different courts.

Motorola is now doing the exact same thing - trying to double-dip Apple for licensing fees. Imagine if you bought Windows 7 and the numerous companies that Microsoft paid licensing fees to suddenly decided that end users also had to pay them money in addition to what you paid for Windows. This is what Google/Motorola thinks is acceptable. In fact, in the current case of Motorola vs Microsoft in Germany, Motorola doesn't just want a percentage of Windows 7 retail price for a license to use their H.264 patents - they want a percentage of the average price of the hardware that Windows 7 will be installed on. Hilarious. Well, not really.

Motorola licensed cellular patents to Infineon who made baseband chips and sold them to numerous manufacturers. Infineon started selling to Apple way back in 2007 and suddenly Motorola pulled their license. Later Motorola licensed the same technology to Qualcomm who also makes baseband chips. Qualcomm starts selling to Apple and Motorola again pulls the license from Qualcomm.

See a pattern here? Motorola has no problem with Infineon or Qualcomm selling their baseband chips to other OEM's, but as soon as they sell to Apple then Motorola suddenly pulls their license. FRAND patents are supposed to be available for anyone to use, not companies you pick and choose. Motorola now wants money from Apple directly, at a rate far higher than what's reasonable (or sustainable).


Funny you can predict Apple will lose a bunch of suits. Please explain to the rest of us how you know this? Which lawsuits are you talking about (where are they filed and what do they relate to)? The only suit I'm aware of is Apple vs S3 in the US where S3 lost and Apple was found not to have infringed on any of S3's graphical patents.

SkinnyPupp 02-14-2012 05:08 PM

I wasn't "making a prediction" I was being facetious.

jackmeister 02-14-2012 05:16 PM

one day this is going to haunt them.

As mentioned before, some company registered the iPad trademark more than 5 years ago, and since its made in china, they better sort that shit out fast, because the china courts could potentially stop exports and production

c3m 02-14-2012 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackmeister (Post 7796916)
one day this is going to haunt them.

As mentioned before, some company registered the iPad trademark more than 5 years ago, and since its made in china, they better sort that shit out fast, because the china courts could potentially stop exports and production

Some iPads and iPhones are made in Brazil (Foxconn opened a new factory in Brazil last year and it is planning to expand it this year)

impactX 02-14-2012 06:43 PM

^ Apple threatened with China iPad ban - Telegraph

dangonay 02-14-2012 07:18 PM

^ Yeah, that'll go over well.

Proview is undergoing debt restructuring and is in desparate need of money. So they ask for $1.5 billion for the trademark. As if a trademark is worth that much.

There are so many ways around this. As someone online suggested, Apple could change manufacturing so that there's no iPad reference in the packaging or software. Ship these tablets outside China and do a packaging "update" which adds the iPad trademark back to the product. First software update the user gets returns the software to its normal state. No more trademark infringement and Apple still gets to export their "tablets".

They could still be prevented from selling in China, but they'd eliminate the export ban (that Proview is hoping will be so damaging that Apple will cave to their $1.5 billion extortion demand).

jackmeister 02-14-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangonay (Post 7797039)
^ Yeah, that'll go over well.

Proview is undergoing debt restructuring and is in desparate need of money. So they ask for $1.5 billion for the trademark. As if a trademark is worth that much.

if they have a power, just get a royalty on the name, like 2 dollars a device. probably not gonna happen. apple will drag this out in court to bankrupt them

SkinnyPupp 07-20-2012 04:38 AM

OK this will be funny to see

Apple Must Run 'Samsung Did Not Copy IPad' Ads: Report

GGnoRE 07-20-2012 11:38 AM

LOL epic... thats such an old school punishment

Apple is retarded.

tiger_handheld 07-20-2012 11:53 AM

If I were an apple shareholder I'd be pissed. Instead of wasting cash on legal, why not send some our way?

Any one know if shareholders are bitching yet?

FerrariEnzo 07-20-2012 12:09 PM

LMAO... Samsung execs must be ROFLMAO!! free ads for them from Apple!


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