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freakshow 03-21-2012 02:58 PM

Your problem is that you 'lol' at people for having 'poor financial planning' because they can't be bothered to save a few bucks by driving to the states every week.

dhillon is just saying that everyone values their time differently, and you might think its worth it to save a few bucks, but that doesn't mean everyone is like you. You'll understand when you're older.

jdc430 03-21-2012 03:09 PM

I just got back from my weekly fill up in PR. I take my work truck (100L) and 2 cans (25L ea). I have never ever had the slightest problem with fueling them all up and bringing into Canada.

Today at Can-Am there was a red jeep that must of has 6 fuel cans. The driver and his family were using 3 pumps to fill everything up! :fuckyea:

z3german 03-21-2012 03:13 PM

Do you guys go to shell? or cheveron just further down the street? or the one just before shell? If so reasons?

CharlieH 03-21-2012 03:16 PM

i'll fill the car up when i go down to tsb shipping to pick shit up but i'd never drive 30 min each way just to get gas... what a waste of time.

bcrdukes 03-21-2012 03:20 PM

^
To add to that, a waste of time and effort.

Quote:

Originally Posted by d87c (Post 7858951)
Consider how translink raised their fair cost, how buses are never on time, always full people, people getting sick and coughing, transfer & slow to get to one destination to another.

Sorry, a car would be the better transportation means.

This is a far cry from the truth. Despite the rise in fares, putting to blame how their buses are never on time is a farce. If they were never on time, they'd be getting a lot more flack than they are already getting.

People getting sick, coughing, having to transfer to get to another destination are excuses to justify your reasons of "saving" on purchasing gas in the US. Take the time to sit down with your girlfriend and do some number crunching. Don't be pointing fingers at people for "poor financial planning" when you can't even figure it out yourself.

jdc430 03-21-2012 03:28 PM

With any car (especially OP case) its barely worth the time and effort. But anything over 100 liters your savings are at least $40. Like CharlieH said, I also have packages waiting at TSB most the time I fill up. And sometimes I'll make a grab a cheap 6pack

CharlieH 03-21-2012 03:32 PM

i just did a quick search for shits and giggles. i called the chevron at point roberts and their regular is $1.25CAD/L. the chevron on no3 and blundell is $1.43 as of 43 minutes ago. your civic has a 50L fuel tank, which means if you literally COMPLETELY ran out of fuel by the time you got to Point Roberts then you'd save $9 CAD for the cost of 1 hour and roughly 40km of gas consumption.

you lol at 1exotic for having poor financial planning? i lol at you for being a dumbass who drives an hour to save less than 9 dollars.


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Purely 03-21-2012 03:39 PM

Other than time, considering you are doing this every week, how much wear and tear are you putting on tyres/car from the extra kms even though it is highway?

jdc430 03-21-2012 03:44 PM

If OP is driving there to save a few bucks I'm sure hes not filling at Chevron. USA Mini Mart is sometimes 10 cents cheaper per liter than Chevron. Just a thought, still not worth the trip at means. Not to mention the border line ups and if you have Nexus the shitty hours the lane is actually open

smaggs 03-21-2012 03:46 PM

It not taxable because it's a natural resource, however I was talking to the customs officer the other week about this (i don't do it myself and don't plan to but asked about the legalities of it for curiosity sake) and he mentioned the following:
- you SHOULD have a hazardous materials sticker really considering you're driving around with canisters of gas
- they can't tell you not to bring it over but they are advising against it due to safety reasons...in case it wasn't obvious you're driving around with large amounts of gasoline and if it's in a car the fumes are going to be circulating which isn't exactly good health practice
- if enough people complain and bring the issue forward, there may be legalities introduced on the matter.


Personally, I don't think it's a very smart idea considering the safety aspects and hope they introduce some laws against it!

GoneGuru 03-21-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gYU (Post 7859008)
Other than time, considering you are doing this every week, how much wear and tear are you putting on tyres/car from the extra kms even though it is highway?

Who cares bro. He makes 40k a year and buys his own groceries. Baus.

bobbyhill 03-21-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieH (Post 7859004)
i just did a quick search for shits and giggles. i called the chevron at point roberts and their regular is $1.25CAD/L. the chevron on no3 and blundell is $1.43 as of 43 minutes ago. your civic has a 50L fuel tank, which means if you literally COMPLETELY ran out of fuel by the time you got to Point Roberts then you'd save $9 CAD for the cost of 1 hour and roughly 40km of gas consumption.

you lol at 1exotic for having poor financial planning? i lol at you for being a dumbass who drives an hour to save less than 9 dollars.


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brb nexus to cross the border in 30s
brb gas savings + jerry cans
brb picking up merchandise w/ savings (on both retail AND shipping)
brb 0% tax on groceries

!Kodamu 03-21-2012 04:24 PM

if you use regular gas then it's not worth it. But if you need supreme then that is totally different.
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UFO 03-21-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhillon09 (Post 7857171)
Someone could tell you that you have no money sense because you spend 2 hours saving $20-$30 when you could be working and making more lol.
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The problem with that logic is that you are assuming he is taking time off work to make that trip. If I make 40k/yr=20/hr, my time is worth 20/hr while I'm at work. It's not worth 20/hr while I'm making dinner, while I'm sleeping, while I'm out buying groceries or gas.

Even with cheap groceries in Bellingham, its not worth my time and effort to go down regularly for gas and groceries. But once a month or two we'll make a day of it and just do general shopping. Stuff gets shipped to PR somewhat regularly, so I'll time my gas needs with when I pick up my stuff.

UFO 03-21-2012 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smaggs (Post 7859014)
It not taxable because it's a natural resource, however I was talking to the customs officer the other week about this (i don't do it myself and don't plan to but asked about the legalities of it for curiosity sake) and he mentioned the following:
- you SHOULD have a hazardous materials sticker really considering you're driving around with canisters of gas
- they can't tell you not to bring it over but they are advising against it due to safety reasons...in case it wasn't obvious you're driving around with large amounts of gasoline and if it's in a car the fumes are going to be circulating which isn't exactly good health practice
- if enough people complain and bring the issue forward, there may be legalities introduced on the matter.


Personally, I don't think it's a very smart idea considering the safety aspects and hope they introduce some laws against it!

1. I'd recommend you check your sources. Gas can be charged tax AND duties

2. I don't fully disagree with your safety concerns, but jerry cans are made specifically for gas to minimize fuel evaporation and withstand some level of physical abuse. It's not like people are filling empty milk jugs with gas.

1exotic 03-21-2012 05:07 PM


smaggs 03-21-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UFO (Post 7859108)
1. I'd recommend you check your sources. Gas can be charged tax AND duties

2. I don't fully disagree with your safety concerns, but jerry cans are made specifically for gas to minimize fuel evaporation and withstand some level of physical abuse. It's not like people are filling empty milk jugs with gas.

Here's my source, but correct me if i'm not reading it correctly, please!
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-com...9/ch27-eng.pdf

edit: section 27-4

- kT 03-21-2012 05:23 PM

i go and fill up 4 jerry cans all the time. the larger sized ones. forget what L or G they are but i just toss them in my trunk. sometimes i declare them, sometimes i tell the guards i got gas - which still isn't a lie. never had any problems, but i usually go when i know there isn't going to be any traffic or lineups anywhere - in other words, in the wee hours of the morning

UFO 03-21-2012 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smaggs (Post 7859179)
Here's my source, but correct me if i'm not reading it correctly, please!
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-com...9/ch27-eng.pdf

edit: section 27-4

I was always under the impression that there was some duty associated with gas, which your list shows is not the case.

However these are the taxes applicable to gas which CBSA is entitled to collect if they so choose:

British Columbia
36.508¢
GST + Includes carbon tax of 5.56 ¢/L as of July 1, 2011 (scheduled to rise to 6.95 ¢/L on July 1, 2012).
Canada Gasoline Tax Information - Ontario Gas Prices

mmmk 03-21-2012 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amuro Ray (Post 7857118)
I just bring a 25L with me occasionally.
Going through the border I just say "Just went down to get gas"... so i guess it's ambiguous enough lol

This response to a CBSA officer is perfectly fine :fuckyea:

hirevtuner 03-21-2012 06:56 PM

i got get gas about every 3 weeks with 2 big jerry cans, I think based on current gas prices, I save around $25 give or take, but I would make it worth it by picking up some stuff I ordered from TSB even though it takes me about 30 mins to get there

GabAlmighty 03-21-2012 07:13 PM

Fuck, so many good threads lately.

Bahhbeehhaaaa 03-21-2012 07:26 PM

I LOL AT YOU for making POOR FINANCIAL DECISIONS! if you really want to be economical conservative, u should buy a 1993 civic for $2000. Here's some basic math, your civic (2006) up @ $15,000. 15,000-2000= $13,000 you are left with 13 grand to spend on gas for the next 4-6 years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by d87c (Post 7857105)
Every time you fill up in the States Vs Canada, you saved about $10~$15

It adds up.

You fill up 3 times in the States, the next tank is pretty much free. In Canada is the same as filling 4.

Doesn't matter what car you drive. Would you rather pay buy 3 get 1 free or buy 4

Not everyone born into a rich family, but we do what we can to save up.

I lol at you for having poor financial planning on some of the basic you can save up.

Every dollar adds up, and even every penny adds up.

Have you ever seen the movie where this guy stole a penny from every bank accounts which in the ends it adds up to more than a Million dollar

However, if you are some one who depends on your family's money, I lol at you for failing in life

:accepted:


dark0821 03-21-2012 11:36 PM

After reading this thread... I feel like I want to point out that the op did ask a pretty legitimate question, regardless of his financial planing, I don't understand why everyone is bitching at him. It's his choice..l and come on.. He pays for everything himself...and I think that is pretty boss... Considering I am older and still living at home.... So whatever.. If you got the answer to his question... Answer op.. If not than just go on....

/end rant

- kT 03-21-2012 11:50 PM

just went down tonight. didn't bring jerry cans. price is 121.5 or somewhere in that rough ballpark

funny story, the border patrol on our side (a female too) asked me as she handed me back my passports - "is this the genesis?"

was pretty surprised


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