REVscene - Vancouver Automotive Forum


Welcome to the REVscene Automotive Forum forums.

Registration is Free!You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   REVscene Automotive Forum > Technical Discussion > Suspension, Brakes , Wheels & Tires Tech

Suspension, Brakes , Wheels & Tires Tech THIS SPACE OPEN FOR ADVERTISEMENT. YOU SHOULD BE ADVERTISING HERE!
Suspension components, brakes, Wheels and Tires. All things related to how your car handles...

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-03-2012, 11:20 PM   #1
Rs has made me the woman i am today!
 
G-spec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 4,032
Thanked 2,165 Times in 594 Posts
Camber kit spindle stuck in arm

I've done a lot of work on my car all by myself, and this is the first time I am really stuck not knowing what to do.... help please, I've tried heatgun, hammer, lubricant sprays... wtf, this doesn't even look possible for this spindle to get this stuck onto the arm, like it literally merged with the metal of the arm molding onto it or something...
towards the end of the video is where it shows you the problem exactly...

pictures are in high resolution so you can see it up close, only took pics of the bottom where it looks like it's one piece, the video shows the top portion as well




Advertisement
__________________
(oO:::\___/:::Oo) (DPE-wheels) // Satin Cocaine White
G-spec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 12:25 AM   #2
Head of HR....have a seat on that couch
 
fliptuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Coquitlam
Posts: 21,871
Thanked 15,586 Times in 4,318 Posts
Take the arm off, turn it upside down, support the bottom with a big socket (so the piece stuck in there can fall out), stick a short bolt or sacrificial socket on the top and bang it out. Make sure the bottom is always supported (always sitting flush with the big socket) so you don't risk bending/cracking the arm. It wouldn't hurt to have someone hold the arm while you're banging away.

Or take the arm off and take it to a shop with a press and get them to press it out.

Don't heat up suspension/steering components.

GL



"Poked myself there" "I'm just talking out my ass" LOL
__________________
feedback

Originally posted by v.b.
can we stop, my pussy hurts...
Originally posted by asian_XL
fliptuner, I am gonna grab ur dick and pee in your face, then rub shit all over my face...:lol
Originally posted by Fei-Ji
haha i can taste the cum in my mouth
Originally posted by FastAnna
when I was 13 I wanted to be a video hoe so bad


RSUV #7

Last edited by fliptuner; 04-04-2012 at 12:30 AM.
fliptuner is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 04-04-2012, 02:12 AM   #3
Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
 
Prolowtone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Langley BC
Posts: 865
Thanked 336 Times in 109 Posts
^ what he said. Pretty much need
1. a socket thats bigger then the piece your pounding out.
2. a nice heavy duty bolt or punch to sit on top of the piece you want out that will not damage the hole in the arm so it should be just a bit smaller.
3. a big fucking hammer
4. someone to hold the arm while you curse and scream at it.


Pretty much the same process to do U-Joints lol
Prolowtone is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 04-04-2012, 06:50 AM   #4
2x Variable Nockenwellen Steuerung
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: N49.2 W122.1
Posts: 6,176
Thanked 1,174 Times in 704 Posts
You can get it out with an arbour press.. shouldn't be that expensive from places like Harbor or Princess

$40 at HF for the 1/2 or $48 for the 1ton one http://www.harborfreight.com/1-ton-a...ress-3552.html
godwin is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 04-04-2012, 08:41 AM   #5
Rs has made me the woman i am today!
 
G-spec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 4,032
Thanked 2,165 Times in 594 Posts
thanks for helpful advice guys, i'm gonna give it a shot today got all day to work on it, will report back later..

FUCKING ICHIBA MAN, thought i was buying quality shit at $400+, fckin joke that company, I have half a mind to ship them their old camber arms back with a nice little note for them as well

good heads up on not heat gunning suspension components too, totally overlooked that in my eagerness to get the spindle outta there
__________________
(oO:::\___/:::Oo) (DPE-wheels) // Satin Cocaine White

Last edited by G-spec; 04-04-2012 at 09:41 AM.
G-spec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 11:22 AM   #6
2x Variable Nockenwellen Steuerung
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: N49.2 W122.1
Posts: 6,176
Thanked 1,174 Times in 704 Posts
Different type of metals will have electrolytic reaction causing metal to bond.. it happens to all brands, except better brands will put a gasket between different types of metal to prevent the problem.

Just get the arbour press.. takes 10 minutes max to get it out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by G-spec View Post
thanks for helpful advice guys, i'm gonna give it a shot today got all day to work on it, will report back later..

FUCKING ICHIBA MAN, thought i was buying quality shit at $400+, fckin joke that company, I have half a mind to ship them their old camber arms back with a nice little note for them as well

good heads up on not heat gunning suspension components too, totally overlooked that in my eagerness to get the spindle outta there
godwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 03:45 PM   #7
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: richmond
Posts: 2,837
Thanked 1,490 Times in 570 Posts
A heat gun will not get that hot enough to have any affect.
I have a 20 ton press and can donate the needed five minutes to knock that out for ya
__________________
Rise Auto Salon

11938 95a Ave Delta
I can be reached VIA text @ 778-232-1465

Oil change special $70 5 liters synthetic oil including OEM filter Fender rolling from $45 per fender
Car Audio:
Focal, Morel, Genesis, Clarion, Scosche, Escort, Compustar, GReddy, Blitz, Tomei, Motul, Endless, Defi, Cusco, Nismo + More


We specialize in:
Custom Car Audio
Race/4x4 Fabrication
Forced Induction
Engine Swaps
General Maintenance
Phil@rise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 04:07 PM   #8
Rs has made me the woman i am today!
 
G-spec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 4,032
Thanked 2,165 Times in 594 Posts
thanks a lot guys, I was gonna take the whole arm apart today, but as I went to bed last night I had the idea to just cut into it to allow it to flex, that way it wouldn't be stuck. My mind was working overtime at trying to think of various possibilities since I REALLY did not wanna take the whole arm off, lol that would have been so much work with just basic tools I have in my garage, no power tools at all.

But it worked, popped out on the second hit very easily, although it wasn't all that easy to cut it, you could see I went rage mode and ended up cutting into the arm slightly but it's not a big deal, not like it's gonna crack apart or nothin.


Anyway thanks for all the help, check out the pics here... peep the not so subliminal in the first pic






__________________
(oO:::\___/:::Oo) (DPE-wheels) // Satin Cocaine White
G-spec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 04:12 PM   #9
Head of HR....have a seat on that couch
 
fliptuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Coquitlam
Posts: 21,871
Thanked 15,586 Times in 4,318 Posts
Wow, you really went for it on that one cut eh? Just remember that balljoint is tapered, it's a wedge. So if you tighten the shit out of it, there is the possibility of cracking the arm now that it has a weak spot.

Deburr the one end with a round file and clean everything with a wire brush.
__________________
feedback

Originally posted by v.b.
can we stop, my pussy hurts...
Originally posted by asian_XL
fliptuner, I am gonna grab ur dick and pee in your face, then rub shit all over my face...:lol
Originally posted by Fei-Ji
haha i can taste the cum in my mouth
Originally posted by FastAnna
when I was 13 I wanted to be a video hoe so bad


RSUV #7
fliptuner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 05:13 AM   #10
Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
 
Prolowtone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Langley BC
Posts: 865
Thanked 336 Times in 109 Posts
^ Yup. maybe put some never seize or some sill glide next time so they dont bond like that, or at least maybe not that badly.

Glad to see you got it out, Never thought of that little trick, Ill have to keep it mind.
Prolowtone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 08:27 AM   #11
Rs has made me the woman i am today!
 
G-spec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 4,032
Thanked 2,165 Times in 594 Posts
Flip yea lol, first top cut I took my time with it, took like 20 minutes, kept cutting stopping to look I didn't go too far, but then went to town on that last cut I just wanted to finish it was getting frustrated, it ain't easy cutting metal with a handsaw especially with so little space.

Prowl yea I figured it was stuck had no space to flex so cutting into it would give it space to move around a bit, and it just popped out on the second tap right away.
good advice I will definitely be using anti seize from now on where ever I can, here and other important parts like on my wheel studs as well, nothing worse than getting a wheel stuck and stripping a lug trying to get it off...

My new Kinetix kit was $250 brand new shipped with a LIFETIME warranty... and the Ichiba is priced between $350 and $450 with a 1 year warranty, and fck the shit is beyond cheap, look at some of the stuff that's happened to other users, literally snapped in half for quite a few people so my case could have been a lot worse, good thing I took them off... these are their rear kits snapping in half here causing crashes





__________________
(oO:::\___/:::Oo) (DPE-wheels) // Satin Cocaine White
G-spec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 05:47 PM   #12
straight from the fields of squamton
 
1990TSI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Grande Prairie
Posts: 11,286
Thanked 576 Times in 201 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by G-spec View Post
good advice I will definitely be using anti seize from now on where ever I can, here and other important parts like on my wheel studs as well, nothing worse than getting a wheel stuck and stripping a lug trying to get it off...

using anti seize on things like wheel studs isn't always a great idea. Keeping them clean is good, and is you put clean nuts on clean studs you won't have a problem.

The reason I say that is there are arguements to using it and not using it. Canadian and American automotive engineers don't reccomend it, most manafacturers don't reccomend it, and from what i've read, the trend started so many years ago the tech was different and they needed it.

for modern cars, keepin the wheel studs clean and not using stretched nuts (lolol) is more important.

I don't have time to post all the links, but quickly google it and you'll see both sides of the arguement.

I personally don't do it, and clean it off of customers cars if I see it.

there is science behind not doing it, hope you can find it!
__________________
2013 Mazdaspeed 3
1990TSI is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 04-06-2012, 06:59 AM   #13
Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
 
Prolowtone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Langley BC
Posts: 865
Thanked 336 Times in 109 Posts
I dont use it on wheel studs, Brake caliper/ hub bolts etc. stuff like this tho there should be no problem. Get some pipe cleaners and some wire brushes and pb blaster or maybe some CLR to clean out bolt holes and bolt threads. Kinda handy to own a tap and die set to
Prolowtone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 07:37 AM   #14
2x Variable Nockenwellen Steuerung
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: N49.2 W122.1
Posts: 6,176
Thanked 1,174 Times in 704 Posts
Phil@Rise offered you to use his press and you still go ahead to hack the arm?

So cost = arm + camber kit + who knows how many hours you've spent? You have to replace the arm now with all your pictures etc.. if not just wait till ICBC see this when you have an accident!

Anti-seize compound won't do squat with parts like this where it is exposed to the elements.
godwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 11:15 AM   #15
Rs has made me the woman i am today!
 
G-spec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 4,032
Thanked 2,165 Times in 594 Posts
Yea I actually noticed when an alignment shop used some anti seize that it messed up my wheel studs even more, now there's a crispy white flaky compound all dried up left behind that's just stuck on between the threads making it a bit harder to put them on and off.

I hadn't used any anti seize myself since the wheel studs were always super clean I think they're anodized, so no rust or nothing.. but will definitely get some cleaner brush that residue off


godwin, yea no way I could have taken the arm off without power tools so I did the only thing I could, idea was great, but my execution wasnt, should have paid attention to the second cut like i did on the first one..
but i'm gonna keep an eye out for cracks, soon as i see anything, just gonna grab a new OEM arm for $200 and slap it on...





hey Phil this whole arm replacement thing would give me an excuse to change all the bushings up front, as there was a minor recall for 350z's and g35's for premature bushing failure in the a arms where they go at roughly 70 to 100k, and upfront I been hearing quite a bit of creaking and squeaking that was never there before last year so I been looking at a complete set of whiteline polyurethane bushings for both front and rear of the car... just need to buy some power tools so I can actually get the parts off and bring them to a shop like yours with a press so you can swap them out....
was wondering how long it would take you to do all that ?
__________________
(oO:::\___/:::Oo) (DPE-wheels) // Satin Cocaine White
G-spec is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net