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Old 04-21-2012, 06:22 PM   #26
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^I think the most egregious and revealing moment about him is when you see him smirking after recalling how his friend and the guy's family ate the human meat he gave them like what he did was something to be proud of.
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^ even more fucked up is the mother making dumplins with the human meat and feeding them to their children.
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well is not the mother's fault, she didn't even know
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damn.....black dolphin looks fucked up..

I get headaches and frusterated when im in my room studying for more than two hours let alone spend every single hour of every single day for 20 years in a cell.
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What is the point of life sentences? These sick fucks aren't going to learn anything from their crimes, and if they do, they're never going to get out of the cell and do anything to change their life. Why not enlist a death penalty for anyone who does such a cruel crime? Fuck this humane nonsense. These people have no humanity. Sick basterd gave human to his friend who unknowingly fed it to his kids. Why should he sit in a cell and rot for the rest of his life? Save the tax payer dollars and send him straight to hell.

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^I think it comes down to an ethical and moral stance of we are as a society to take others lives despite what crimes they committed. The most important thing would be the issue of taking the life of an innocent person. Now I am in no way suggesting that these people in this video are innocent, but its the potential error that could occur if the death penalty is available. I think many people could agree with the rationale that we would rather let 10 guilty go than to execute one innocent. Granted, there are many documented cases of people on death row that aren't actually guilty and are later exonerated with DNA. Specifically, Canada does not have the death penalty because we almost accidentally hung 14 year old Steven Truscott in 1959 for the murder of Lynne Harper. He was acquitted recently in 2007.

It is also cheaper in the States to house them in prisons for life than to execute because exhausting every legal appeal, a very lengthy process, will cost the state a ton of money. The death penalty has not been shown to deter serious crime, and statistically, states in the US that have the death penalty actually have higher crime rates.
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well is not the mother's fault, she didn't even know
Not saying the mother's at fault, just that fact alone makes me nauseous...
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the way you live in black dolphin you are PAYING for your crimes

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ok =( yeah you are right, is just fucking sick.. I thought there are death sentence in Russia? I know china has it lol

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^I think it comes down to an ethical and moral stance of we are as a society to take others lives despite what crimes they committed. The most important thing would be the issue of taking the life of an innocent person. Now I am in no way suggesting that these people in this video are innocent, but its the potential error that could occur if the death penalty is available. I think many people could agree with the rationale that we would rather let 10 guilty go than to execute one innocent. Granted, there are many documented cases of people on death row that aren't actually guilty and are later exonerated with DNA. Specifically, Canada does not have the death penalty because we almost accidentally hung 14 year old Steven Truscott in 1959 for the murder of Lynne Harper. He was acquitted recently in 2007.

It is also cheaper in the States to house them in prisons for life than to execute because exhausting every legal appeal, a very lengthy process, will cost the state a ton of money. The death penalty has not been shown to deter serious crime, and statistically, states in the US that have the death penalty actually have higher crime rates.
Death penalty doesn't deter crime, because criminals willing to commit crimes deserving of the death penalty AREN'T human. Humans can be deterred away from doing something, scum cannot.
Legal system lacks a lot of logic, many cases are extremely clear shut. In which case no money should be wasted and they should be promptly executed.
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mm part 1 @ 2:22 .. that guy creeps me out
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the black dolphin made me nauseas throughout the first clip and the guy eating other people too descriptive for my like... i stopped after watching part 2. Can not bare another -_-
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only part 1 was bad, the others weren't too bad
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I don't think I could even work in a place like that.
Can you imagine being the guard that has to check cells every 15mins nonstop for eight or more hours as your job for the rest of your life... I'd rather work at Mcdonalds, at least there you can interact with people and fool around with fellow employees.

These Russians are no joke. I love seeing how different cultures do things.

I assume Russians must think Americans/Canadians are pretty soft.
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honestly, nothing I didn't already assume about Russian prisons..
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When people say they're disturbed by the guy's cannibalism and his confession, I wonder if they're new to the internet.
I wonder how the family responded to the meat. Did they find it tasty or disgusting? For him it was kinda biased since he knew it was human. Would have been more disturbing if they said that.
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^I think it comes down to an ethical and moral stance of we are as a society to take others lives despite what crimes they committed. The most important thing would be the issue of taking the life of an innocent person. Now I am in no way suggesting that these people in this video are innocent, but its the potential error that could occur if the death penalty is available. I think many people could agree with the rationale that we would rather let 10 guilty go than to execute one innocent. Granted, there are many documented cases of people on death row that aren't actually guilty and are later exonerated with DNA. Specifically, Canada does not have the death penalty because we almost accidentally hung 14 year old Steven Truscott in 1959 for the murder of Lynne Harper. He was acquitted recently in 2007.

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Well there's a difference between a 25 year sentence and a death sentence. If the man is going to be in jail his entire life and he has admited to his crimes, why not put him out of his misery? 30 years in a cell won't help him become a better person... I hate that movie Dead Man Walking for showing that the death sentence is used in these type of misjudged situations. Damn you Sean Penn!

And I highly doubt a state will have higher crime rates BECAUSE of executions. I think it's more of a retaliation to the high crime rates. In a way, it's thinning out the herd.
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Old 04-22-2012, 08:16 PM   #43
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that cannibal story was nothing... there was another story several years ago, just reading it was ... so much detail
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Well there's a difference between a 25 year sentence and a death sentence. If the man is going to be in jail his entire life and he has admited to his crimes, why not put him out of his misery? 30 years in a cell won't help him become a better person... I hate that movie Dead Man Walking for showing that the death sentence is used in these type of misjudged situations. Damn you Sean Penn!

And I highly doubt a state will have higher crime rates BECAUSE of executions. I think it's more of a retaliation to the high crime rates. In a way, it's thinning out the herd.
Giving a man 30 years in a place like "Black Dolphin" will clearly deter him from crime. Put this into perspective:

Your about to kill a family, and you think of the consiquences if ever caught. You could either die a quick and painless death by injection.. or you could spend the rest of your worthless life in a FIFTY SQUARE FOOT cell. If you watched the movie thoroughly, you'd see the prison wouldn't have too many expenses. The get soup (looks like leftovers anyway) with bread. That's it.

They say it's these prisons are inhumane, but they also hold "inhumane" people. The justice system here, by god everyone knows, is much too lax. Bring 1 of these prisons here, and I doubt anyone will do anything wrong.

Can't remember the segment, but the 1 guy saying you steal a "sack of potatos" and you get "6 months in high security prison"...
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^poor people in russia will commit crimes no matter what. add to the fact that alcoholism is a serious problem there so not only are people drinking but a lotta their parents drink while pregnant. essentially im saying like many places in the world a good chunk of prisoners are "criminally insane" and do not have the common sense to not commit crimes. i totally agree that sitting in jail will make unregret what u did but theres a reason why most prisoners when released go back to what they know
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Pretty much. I was eating breakfast while watching the first part.

The only thing these videos do for me is be thankful I'm free and didn't get caught up in stupid shit that could've got me in similar situations.
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