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The John Norwich Riders Corner In honour of our fellow moderator: John Norwich R.I.P. September 17th, 2014
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:33 PM   #26
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My advice for getting into a bike is go with a CBR 125, ride the shit out of it this summer and then sell it in the spring, go up to a CBR250 and ride it for 2 seasons and then when you get your full, go pick up a 600cc, but don't start off the hop on a 250, you can still kill yourself on a sportbike. It takes time and patience, speed kills, anyone can go fast, learn to ride slow and don't lane split and you'll do fine.
u can kill urself on any sport bike or any car.
i started off on a 750 gsxr, with not much knowledge and am still doing perfectly fine.

if someones gonna start riding might as well get the bike you want, it just takes common sense and responsibility to not be an idiot while riding it.

then again everyones different.
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I wouldn't even bother with the CBR 125, stick with the ninja 250, it is a great starter bike and easy to re-sell.
PRS is a really good school to look into.
Best to look into the licensing now as ICBC is looking into the graduated licensing system.
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they already have GLP for the bike.
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They are looking into the system that limits you on the size of bike you ride and getting re-tested when you want to get a bigger bike. Kind of like the system in Asia.
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They are looking into the system that limits you on the size of bike you ride and getting re-tested when you want to get a bigger bike. Kind of like the system in Asia.

Kind of different and hard to limit the CC

considering sport bike vs cruisers.
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... how is it hard?

you can't ride anything over 250cc? no cruiser for you.

i would prefer that system to be honest.

keep total newbs with more money than brains starting off on a litre bike
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:15 PM   #32
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I'm going to have to agree that the CC thing won't work just for the cruisers vs sport bikes. Not everybody wants to ride a bike hunch over or leaned forward body position. I've tried out a VStar 650 once and the feeling you get when riding it just feels so different from my R6.
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Exactly, its a completely different bike so that wont work.
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wait till u get your full class 5
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so you think a new rider should be able to step right up to a 1400cc goldwing? that's like giving a schoolbus to a class 7 lol
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so you think a new rider should be able to step right up to a 1400cc goldwing? that's like giving a schoolbus to a class 7 lol
Nope but there are a few good beginner cruiser bikes that are over 250cc and a restriction of cc would put them unattainable for the beginners. Example....
HONDA SHADOW Aero VT750C, KAWASAKI Vulcan 500 LTD, STAR V-STAR Silverado, and the TRIUMPH Bonneville.
On a side note, while I was at the BMW/Ducati Dyno day last weekend I noticed that a inline 600cc is in the same class as the 848 Twin. Pretty choked
since my little R6 was winning till that 848evo brute showed up.
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Anyone that finishes taking a proper riding school program is more than capable of starting on a 600cc motorcycle.

You spend a week learning on 250's, which you will outgrow within weeks of finishing the program, its just ridiculous.

I'd say 125's and 250's are for folks who take the rain check on riding school and just prefer to teach themselves or learn from friends.
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wait and gain more driving experience till you get your class 5, then you wont have to go through the whole glp.60days vs 3years for class 6
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if i get my bike license and then go for my class 5 would i still have to wait 3 years for my full bike license??
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if i get my bike license and then go for my class 5 would i still have to wait 3 years for my full bike license??
The way I understand it, no. Once you exit the GLP by getting your class 5, you don't need to continue in the GLP for your motorcycle. Your class 8L/N should automatically convert to a class 6 "LDL" at which point you only have to do the class 6 road test to get your full licence.
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The way I understand it, no. Once you exit the GLP by getting your class 5, you don't need to continue in the GLP for your motorcycle. Your class 8L/N should automatically convert to a class 6 "LDL" at which point you only have to do the class 6 road test to get your full licence.
yea i asked the lady and she told me i just have to do the two roads tests one for my class 5 and the road test for full bike license. i asked if i got my full bike license if it would convert over she said no and vice verse.....
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250 CC

Sport Bikes

CBR 250

Ninja 250

Cruiser Standard 250

V-Star (Virago) 250

Marauder

TU 250

Rebel

There are more non-sport bike 250 that sport bike.

Also you will not be bored after a week if you want to learn properly. On a cruiser 250 it does have limits on the 'fun' factor but a CBR or Ninja 250 should keep you entertained for at least a year or two.

If you think otherwise ask someone who tracks a 250 or goes to chicken strip BBQ .

I ride a 1700 and want a 250 sportbike for the 'fun'
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I learned on a rebel 250 for a week in school
rode my 600rr for a week after finishing the course
jumped back on a 250 for the road test
now full license baby and modding the 600.
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Put your ego aside and go with a 125/250cc and upgrade from there.

You don't want your first bike to be your last bike.
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250 CC

Sport Bikes

CBR 250

Ninja 250

Cruiser Standard 250

V-Star (Virago) 250

Marauder

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Rebel

There are more non-sport bike 250 that sport bike.

Also you will not be bored after a week if you want to learn properly. On a cruiser 250 it does have limits on the 'fun' factor but a CBR or Ninja 250 should keep you entertained for at least a year or two.

If you think otherwise ask someone who tracks a 250 or goes to chicken strip BBQ .

I ride a 1700 and want a 250 sportbike for the 'fun'
my gf got bored of her ninja 250 after a month...lol. I got bored after riding it from abbottsford to surrey.

Go with 600cc, your just gonna waste time and money on taxes.


ps. my gf is 5 foot and about 100lbs or so
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Put your ego aside and go with a 125/250cc and upgrade from there.

You don't want your first bike to be your last bike.
doesn't matter what you ride, to be honest your ego has nothing to do with what you start with. Then again I'm not saying that 125/250cc are not good bikes. Find out where you are, take a course and see if your comfortable with the bikes they support (Usually 250cc from PRS) if you feel you need a bigger bike go 600cc if you feel your right where you want to be then get a 250cc.

IMO if you want to have a bike, I suggest you invest in learning from the right people and getting proper gear first.
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Started into bikes this summer. Got a 600 because of the - highly debated - argument that since I'm a big guy (6'4" 215lbs) something smaller would just be too small, and because I was worried that I would get bored with something smaller. Took and passed my road test a couple weeks after getting the bike, it really doesn't take that long to get comfortable on it. It mostly comes down to how much of a dumbass you're going to be and how much self-restraint you have (actually have, not just say you have lol). I believe your licensing system works the same as here (Yukon) and definitely getting your full class 5 first makes the class 6 way easier.
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gf had a 250..

i started on r6 to cbr600rr

i miss her 250 its way more fun than a 600
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I learned very basic riding skills on a pulsar 250 a few years ago self taught, just through youtube and internet.

jump a few years later my friend buys a ninja 250 blind (never touched a motorcycle, never done any research) and I taught him what I know, so i got to rip around on the bike a bit. Riding from one side of river road to the other = got bored with it. That includes the few years off that ive never even touched a motorcycle.

I ride a 750 now and i love it! I would personally go 600-750 as starter, but if you are a slowish learner or not so coordinated or responsible then go for a ninja 250 because resale value is quite high and you dont take much of a loss.
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I missed out on a nice Ninja 250R on Craigslist but now found another one I like. Should be picking it up this week! Excited!
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