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i-VTEC 06-18-2012 04:42 PM

Smart Key
 
Does anyone have this installed? Or something similar


From
PAMOC LCD Smart Key RFID PKE System (Alarm & Starter) | RPM Electronics

What is your experience?

bluejays 06-18-2012 04:44 PM

Looks pretty sweet, and $350 for a alarm/starter it looks like a good buy

i-VTEC 06-18-2012 04:46 PM

The shop charges 50/HR, Total + install would probably be less than $600

Just not sure if its reliable or not

tiger_handheld 06-18-2012 06:43 PM

this looks epic!

are there any comparable devices on the market?

orgasm_donor 06-18-2012 09:32 PM

Looks like the typical Chinese branded alarm/starters you get on Ebay. We have installed similar units with mixed (mostly negative) results. I would wait until Compustar or another quality alarm company develops their own version.

I see that site sells Compustar alarms as well! And they cost more than ours do. :)

i-VTEC 06-19-2012 08:18 AM

I guess I will for a bigger name to have something similar. Thanks

i-VTEC 06-19-2012 08:35 AM

There is another similar product, Welcome to Advanced Keys

parm104 06-20-2012 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orgasm_donor (Post 7951478)
Looks like the typical Chinese branded alarm/starters you get on Ebay. We have installed similar units with mixed (mostly negative) results. I would wait until Compustar or another quality alarm company develops their own version.

I see that site sells Compustar alarms as well! And they cost more than ours do. :)

What kind of negative results have you guys encountered with these types of units so far? Have the ignition starts failed to work properly or is the alarm/remote start that fails to work properly?

Phil@rise 06-20-2012 10:00 AM

Look carefully at that remote and the operation of it. I'll wager its based on older (roughly) three-four year old Compustar architecture. They had the proximity based arm and disarm and with simple protocol changes a push button starter utilizing the negative starter trigger input this could be achieved.
The biggest negative I could see to this system is the remote battery dying every week due to the proximity function (the remote is constantly transmitting) leaving you screwed to start your car without having a key as a backup.

i-VTEC 06-20-2012 10:38 AM

Yea, battery going to drain like crazy.

I wonder if you can have second remote, and turn it off.

Phil@rise 06-20-2012 12:53 PM

It probably comes with a companion remote. Do you want to carry two remotes with you at all times lol

i-VTEC 06-20-2012 02:11 PM

haha but works sort of the same : )

if you lost your car key, you gotta go home and get the spare key

if your battery on the remote ran out, gotta go home get the spare remote

but if you carry a charging cable you can charge it if your battery ran out (but I can see this happening a lot more than rarely loses your key)

altho Toyota has the push start engine starter technology, if your remote ran out of battery, just put the remote against the start button, it will temp charge the remote and you are able to start your car


lowda9 06-20-2012 03:27 PM

I got the polarbear 2 way alarm/remote starter installed at this shop a couple months ago. works fine besides crappy shock sensor.

i-VTEC 06-20-2012 03:40 PM

There are a lot of alarm/remote starter

But not many smart key where when you get close, the door unlocks itself, when you go away, it locks itself

Phil@rise 06-21-2012 09:17 AM

"if you lost your car key, you gotta go home and get the spare key

if your battery on the remote ran out, gotta go home get the spare remote"

Except there is no more key tumbler by the looks of it unless this is just a stick on button that goes over the tumbler but I doubt that as the tumbler would need to be removed to disable the steering wheel lock.
Also if your in the middle of BFN how you gonna get home for your spare remote. My point is I doubt this system is as unreliable as some might suggest but I will say it is very unpractical and will lead to future problems.
Push button starters are great but there has to be some sort of backup plan or you will be calling a tow truck.

tiger_handheld 06-21-2012 11:03 AM

push start with a BCAA membership ;)

orgasm_donor 06-21-2012 10:00 PM

Too much risk IMO if you want something reliable and by-passable.
If they made a super solid unit out there, I would already have it. :)

i-VTEC 06-22-2012 08:43 AM

So atm, are there good remote engine / alarm brands have something like unlock itself when you go near, and lock itself when you go away?

I really don't care about the push start

i-VTEC 06-22-2012 08:49 AM

That smart key system pamoc's website, and it is a China Brand

PAMOC

Phil@rise 06-22-2012 12:41 PM

Older compustars did that and the fuction sucked it was a pain in the ass.

KO7 06-24-2012 09:09 PM

How reliable are the OEM keyless systems, specifically on the Subaru BRZ Limited? Would remote start work with push-button start cars?

orgasm_donor 06-24-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KO7 (Post 7957689)
How reliable are the OEM keyless systems, specifically on the Subaru BRZ Limited? Would remote start work with push-button start cars?

Yes, we've done dozens and dozens of push button start cars so that's not a problem.

dinealone 06-25-2012 06:50 PM

Advanced Keys - AK-104B Smart Key with Push Start System

been contemplating on this for a while. look halfway down the page, at the second bullet after the picture of the "fob" diagram, it shows a "bypass transponder card" in case the fob runs out of battery or you lose it. it looks like you can just place the backup card in your wallet or something. pretty decent price too.

dohboi 06-25-2012 07:02 PM

Actually Compustar has a similar system called the EZ-GO you can add to your Compustar system that will disarm upon walk up, but not arm when you walk away, the RFID chip is tiny, it doesn't draw power.


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