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Old 06-20-2012, 12:07 PM   #1
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For anyone trying to speed up their pc for the lowest price

I spent a lot of money on high end CPU's and GPU's in the quest of increasing my computer's speed. A new cpu that was 3 times more powerfull than my old one did little differnce, maybe 10% overall speed increase overall.

The new gpu was over 6 times faster and it did increase the whole pc speed by quite a lot in all aspects, especially gaming where i had 100+ frames. But all those fps didnt help me in computing speed overall.

I then added a extra 4gb of ram, bringing it up to 8gb of ram whoch increased the pc speed and operation by about 20%

All this stuff cost me hundreds of dollars with litlle effect to what i wanted to accomplish.

Next thing i got was a SSD , it was 40$ for a used 60gb OCZ, my boot time went from 4 mins to 11 seconds, the differnce that SSD did was astronomical, i increased the whole pc speed by at least 200%, so to sum things up .... Forget all the cpu,gpu and ram upgrades, grab yourself a SSD.
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I find that when I was running a quad core on the ga 775 socket, the speed of the CPU and GPU wasn't really affecting my speed that much. For me, the ram was being used up really fast. I had a ssd before but that only speeds up your boot time/ application launch. Gaming wise, it's not that beneficiary.
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Sorry but it's very obvious that upgrading your GPU and RAM won't dramatically speed up your overall system performance. Any computer tech would know that. As well we all know that SSD's improve responsiveness by a lot. What you upgrade depends greatly on what you're using your PC for.

Telling people to forget everything else and get just an SSD while is a good idea may not workout for everyone.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:53 PM   #4
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I find that when I was running a quad core on the ga 775 socket, the speed of the CPU and GPU wasn't really affecting my speed that much. For me, the ram was being used up really fast. I had a ssd before but that only speeds up your boot time/ application launch. Gaming wise, it's not that beneficiary.
If you have a secondary ssd for your games you will notice in games with big maps such as Wow, diablo and skyrim that the load times are near instant
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:55 PM   #5
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Sorry but it's very obvious that upgrading your GPU and RAM won't dramatically speed up your overall system performance. Any computer tech would know that. As well we all know that SSD's improve responsiveness by a lot. What you upgrade depends greatly on what you're using your PC for.

Telling people to forget everything else and get just an SSD while is a good idea may not workout for everyone.
I meant that ssd had the biggest effect on speeding up the pc os itself and its operation, not fps in games or rendering.
Not everyone is a pro tech here, i'm just trying to clarify for some users that dont know what to upgrade in order to increase the speed of their os operations.
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Thats why you don't upgrade, wait until you need do an entire new build or almost an entire upgrade.
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I've got a shitbox sitting in the house; running XP, 512 MB of RAM. Do you think it'll speed stuff up with a SSD? Kinda wanna use it for other purposes.
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I spent a lot of money on high end CPU's and GPU's in the quest of increasing my computer's speed. A new cpu that was 3 times more powerfull than my old one did little differnce, maybe 10% overall speed increase overall.

The new gpu was over 6 times faster and it did increase the whole pc speed by quite a lot in all aspects, especially gaming where i had 100+ frames. But all those fps didnt help me in computing speed overall.

I then added a extra 4gb of ram, bringing it up to 8gb of ram whoch increased the pc speed and operation by about 20%

All this stuff cost me hundreds of dollars with litlle effect to what i wanted to accomplish.

Next thing i got was a SSD , it was 40$ for a used 60gb OCZ, my boot time went from 4 mins to 11 seconds, the differnce that SSD did was astronomical, i increased the whole pc speed by at least 200%, so to sum things up .... Forget all the cpu,gpu and ram upgrades, grab yourself a SSD.




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I thought everyone knew storage devices have always been a major bottleneck?


Even if you didn't, you would at least know from benchmarks that new CPU and GPUs dont usually provide more than marginal improvements (at least in normal operaton)
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I thought everyone knew storage devices have always been a major bottleneck?


Even if you didn't, you would at least know from benchmarks that new CPU and GPUs dont usually provide more than marginal improvements (at least in normal operaton)
I knew that the hdd made a big differnce but not this big...
In any case this post wasnt aimed at people with C++ skills, running bulldozers on 2000$ GPU's.
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my boot time went from 4 mins to 11 seconds,
what the heck.. 4min to boot... what do you have a 486 DX2??
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what the heck.. 4min to boot... what do you have a 486 DX2??
Not to sound mean but he's got other problems if his comp takes that long to boot on a normal hdd. My desktop at work boots in like 60secs or less.
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More like 2010.

I remember buying my 60GB SSD for 2xx and it was the second best day of my life building my own PC.

The best day of my life was when I discovered what the Turbo button does to a 486.
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Not to sound mean but he's got other problems if his comp takes that long to boot on a normal hdd. My desktop at work boots in like 60secs or less.
ya 4minutes wtf, maybe he was hooked upto the alureon botnet and when he formatted his pc to load the os on his ssd he cleaned it inadvertently haha

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I've got a shitbox sitting in the house; running XP, 512 MB of RAM. Do you think it'll speed stuff up with a SSD? Kinda wanna use it for other purposes.
in your case upgrading your ram will make a HUGE difference(a pc with specs like yours may take ddr1 only). a cheap ssd from an ncix sale will also speed up responsiveness. make sure your shitbox has sata =)
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More like 2010.

I remember buying my 60GB SSD for 2xx and it was the second best day of my life building my own PC.

The best day of my life was when I discovered what the Turbo button does to a 486.
i always turned it off and then turned it on when i needed the boost even though i could have left it on permanently lol.
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what the heck.. 4min to boot... what do you have a 486 DX2??
Tbh i have no ideea why it tales so long to boot, maybe cauze i have the same windows installation for 2 years and aprox 2TB of HDD tied to it.

Of course that time can be dropped to 2 mins and something with the removal of my startup programs but i needed them all to stay.
My pc is a amd x4@ 4,000mhz , gtx670 and 8gb ram ddr2
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performance is all about bottleneck, most PC has an old and clustered HDD that's holding everything back, so that's why you feel a huge difference when you upgrade to an SSD with a fresh window install.

e.g. I was using a WD Caviar Black drive then upgraded to a Crucial M4 128GB...the performance gain was minimal. Boot time went from 36 sec to 32 sec
The new SSD was fast and responsive, but so was my original HDD because I kept the drive extremely clean. (Never install a single useless program, didn't even install itunes on it)

Btw...If your original drive was taking 2min+ too boot, the performance gain you are seeing probably has more to do with a fresh window install than the faster SSD performance.
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most people will be surprised how much faster their computer will run after a defrag of the drive.
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so solid state drives can be had for 60$?
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Can`t believe how much money the OP wasted when he should have just gotten this.

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why upgrade your PC when you can simply increase mouse speed and keyboard repeat speed a little. Instant turbo mode
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