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The John Norwich Riders Corner In honour of our fellow moderator: John Norwich R.I.P. September 17th, 2014
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:34 AM   #26
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When I bought my cbr600, it was basically looks for me.
I liked the k7 gsxr 600 and the 07 honda cbr600.
I test rode both of them and ended up liking how the honda rode better.
Most likely because back then, the Honda was the only bike that had the steering damper but they all have it now. Also another reason to choose a bike could be how tall you are. If you're short, 5'6 or under, you would probably need to get a gsxr because it has the lowest seating position unless you want to lower the other bikes.
I thought the Gixxer was the first 600 in the market to come with a steering damper.
I remember my friend's K4 having it.
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I thought the Gixxer was the first 600 in the market to come with a steering damper.
I remember my friend's K4 having it.
I don't think so...
Maybe it was an aftermarket one...
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I don't think so...
Maybe it was an aftermarket one...
SumAznGuy is right, k4's and k5 do in fact come with steering dampers from the factory. I had one on my k5 750

Its sort of hidden under the triple clamps.
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just with whatever makes you happy, whether looks, sound, etc...performance and reviews don't mean anything if you don't enjoy it. Heck, you won't be able to push any of these bikes to its limits anyways, not at our level of riding at least. fT-z33wor on the other hand, he needs a red ducati and a full suit to pose at starbucks, if you're different then look elsewhere.
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Looks is probably the biggest factor. Then the rider gets into the things like the height of the bike and how comfortable it is after.
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just with whatever makes you happy, whether looks, sound, etc...performance and reviews don't mean anything if you don't enjoy it. Heck, you won't be able to push any of these bikes to its limits anyways, not at our level of riding at least. fT-z33wor on the other hand, he needs a red ducati and a full suit to pose at starbucks, if you're different then look elsewhere.
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just with whatever makes you happy, whether looks, sound, etc...performance and reviews don't mean anything if you don't enjoy it. Heck, you won't be able to push any of these bikes to its limits anyways, not at our level of riding at least. fT-z33wor on the other hand, he needs a red ducati and a full suit to pose at starbucks, if you're different then look elsewhere.
your right full suits even if ur riding to starbucks is for chumps....me to you mr rk604 sir =
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your right full suits even if ur riding to starbucks is for chumps....me to you mr rk604 sir =
What are you guys talking about? I do that all the time, there's nothing wrong with that
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SumAznGuy is right, k4's and k5 do in fact come with steering dampers from the factory. I had one on my k5 750

Its sort of hidden under the triple clamps.
I guess what I meant was the electronic steering damper that the 07 cbr 600 came with.
It was the only 600 bike in 07 to have it. The k8 gsxr600 got it.
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i still want to get 06+ r6, because of how it feels. The front is dip down, and and the rear is raised up making it feel very sporty.

gsxr has more of a flat feeling. the front and rear is the same height.

and cbr600rr is good because it has under tail exhaust, so your legs won't be burning after a hot ride
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I wanted an R6, but it was too high for me too
Gixxer's had too much shit i don't think i'll need
Honda... within my budget, under tail exhaust, fits me... and ROTHMANS!

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Despite what bike you get, I would personally recommend a suspension adjustment at RMR Suspensions or at M-Speed Racing. I don't know if any other shops that do this (maybe Bayside?) but regardless, I had my suspension setup at M-Speed by Marbod and wow, what a difference in the way the bike handles!
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Despite what bike you get, I would personally recommend a suspension adjustment at RMR Suspensions or at M-Speed Racing. I don't know if any other shops that do this (maybe Bayside?) but regardless, I had my suspension setup at M-Speed by Marbod and wow, what a difference in the way the bike handles!
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And yeah we do adjust suspension, Charlie and I actually got ours done by Barry over at KFG last time we were down at Seattle.

Its a night and day difference in the way the bike behaves, the feedback is just different.
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where's m-speed racing? is there any local shops that does suspension tuning?
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where's m-speed racing? is there any local shops that does suspension tuning?
It's on Commercial Drive, literally just off E. Hastings on the NE corner of the block.

Sorry - it's called "Mspeed Performance" on Google.

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RMR does pretty good suspension tuning...

Barry KFG has reputation...I got my suspension set by Barry KFG with ft-z33wor and CharlieH. Track setting of course, the right pre-load and sag according to the weight of the rider, It does feel night and day
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RMR does pretty good suspension tuning...

Barry KFG has reputation...I got my suspension set by Barry KFG with ft-z33wor and CharlieH. Track setting of course, the right pre-load and sag according to the weight of the rider, It does feel night and day
Stewart at Vancouver BMW Ducati said he would do mine for free since i bought my bike there. Im led to believe its a fairly straight forward service. My question is there little to no difference in going to KFG vs Vancouver BMW Ducati? Thanks

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Stewart at Vancouver BMW Ducati said he would do mine for free since i bought my bike there. Im led to believe its a fairly straight forward service. My question is there little to no difference in going to KFG vx Vancouver BMW Ducati? Thanks
Hopefully ft-z33wor & CharlieH chime in but I would think so - yes. Because you're constantly riding around the track, KFG would probably be constantly tuning your suspension to accommodate both the rider and the track itself. One small adjustment from what I was able to tell on the street made a huge difference. You're constantly having to provide KFG feedback on how the bike rides and how you feel as opposed to doing it once. You're left with one "optimal" setting for the street.
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Hopefully ft-z33wor & CharlieH chime in but I would think so - yes. Because you're constantly riding around the track, KFG would probably be constantly tuning your suspension to accommodate both the rider and the track itself. One small adjustment from what I was able to tell on the street made a huge difference. You're constantly having to provide KFG feedback on how the bike rides and how you feel as opposed to doing it once. You're left with one "optimal" setting for the street.
You pretty much summed up all the good points. I'd imagine almost any shop is capable of adjusting your suspension, but I'm also led to believe their knowledge and experience will also be limited to how much they practice doing it on customer's bikes. Realistically, the majority of their clientelle are street riders and I can't imagine a whole lot of people lining up down there to get their suspension done for the purpose of city riding. It doesn't even come to mind for most people.

They could undoubtedly do basic adjustments, but places such as KFG Racing specialize in suspension tuning, its their bread and butter. Barry's experience makes him a veteran go-to guy for a lot of track riders. He'd send you out for a few laps and come in again, and repeats the process until you're happy with the set up. You'd tell him what you liked, or if it was better or worse than before, and he would adjust it for you accordingly.
It cost me like $25 for the day, to adjust it till I was content with the set up when I went to their kiosk at track day in Seattle.
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if you're not tracking the bike then all you need is to have it set up once for the street. at the track you'd want to have it set up every time you go to a new track because the bike will handle differently at every corner, and needs to be tailored specifically for that circuit.
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I only rode my bike on the street and I found some basic suspension settings online.
Based on my weight, I adjusted rear pre-load and shock settings and it made a night and day difference.
If it is only $25 or $50, I'd say take it to a professional and have it done.

On my ITR, I am constantly having to play with the settings and know how much work is involved with shock, swaybar, and alignment adjustments to get the car to handle the way that suits you best.
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I recall paying somewhere around $40 to $50 tops at M-Speed so yeah, totally worth it.
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You pretty much summed up all the good points. I'd imagine almost any shop is capable of adjusting your suspension, but I'm also led to believe their knowledge and experience will also be limited to how much they practice doing it on customer's bikes. Realistically, the majority of their clientelle are street riders and I can't imagine a whole lot of people lining up down there to get their suspension done for the purpose of city riding. It doesn't even come to mind for most people.

They could undoubtedly do basic adjustments, but places such as KFG Racing specialize in suspension tuning, its their bread and butter. Barry's experience makes him a veteran go-to guy for a lot of track riders. He'd send you out for a few laps and come in again, and repeats the process until you're happy with the set up. You'd tell him what you liked, or if it was better or worse than before, and he would adjust it for you accordingly.
It cost me like $25 for the day, to adjust it till I was content with the set up when I went to their kiosk at track day in Seattle.
Would they be able to change the seat height as well?
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