In China, the rich and powerful can hire body doubles to do their prison time

[The7even]

Originally Posted by BossFrancis

It's sad really, in China if you don't have money you don't have anything.

It's sad really, in China if you don't have money you don't have anything.

sad really, in China if you don't have money you don't have anything.

really, in China if you don't have money you don't have anything.

in China if you don't have money you don't have anything.

in China

Right... every where else though, it's different, thank God.
Here in 'Murrica we have our freedumz and morals and we do just fine without monies.

[TOPEC]

Originally Posted by radioman66

Talking with co workers about this at lunch. The question was how much would you do it for.

if the stand in was from a poor family in some rural area, theyll gladly do it for probably as little as $200CAD or slightly under $1500RMB a month

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Originally Posted by Mr.C

And same thing happens in Brazil too. If you are well connected, you can still get away with anything.

It's more of a third-world country phenomenon.

LOL. It's the same in first world countries. you just have to be even more well connected, and sly about it.

there you can be open about it. here we have to be deceiving.

[Sid Vicious]

Originally Posted by The7even

Right... every where else though, it's different, thank God.
Here in 'Murrica we have our freedumz and morals and we do just fine without monies.

at least our shit is uncensored, and we can vote for more than one political party

[bing]

^we mainly have 3 political parties to choose from: Liberals, NDP, and Conservatives.

Not a great degree of choices and there's always issues with party discipline (i.e. marginal regions don't have much of a voice), but I suppose you could say its better than one party. The media here is censored too, what they don't report and how they report is just as important as what is not being reported.

[zx7rrrr]

Originally Posted by willystyle

US, Russia, and most other Western countries have had a long history of doping in the Olympics as well. Go look it up in Wikipedia. But of course you wouldn't hear about it from our media, because they are Western athletes.

why u hating on western media? obviosly its biased. chinese media is probably doing the same thing.US is the best country in the world. China has alot of human rights issues. US is the reason there is democracy in the world. dont hate

[willystyle]

Originally Posted by zx7rrrr

why u hating on western media? obviosly its biased. chinese media is probably doing the same thing.US is the best country in the world. China has alot of human rights issues. US is the reason there is democracy in the world. dont hate

Highlight the part in my post where I made a statement that I am "hating on western media". On the other hand, I sense an American patriot.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious

at least our shit is uncensored, and we can vote for more than one political party

Originally Posted by bing

^we mainly have 3 political parties to choose from: Liberals, NDP, and Conservatives.

Not a great degree of choices and there's always issues with party discipline (i.e. marginal regions don't have much of a voice), but I suppose you could say its better than one party. The media here is censored too, what they don't report and how they report is just as important as what is not being reported.

our shit is uncensored, but what selective news that they let us hear, is heavily manipulated and deceptive.

we get to vote for two sides of the same coin, and the percentage of people that vote is really low.

[bing]

Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma

our shit is uncensored, but what selective news that they let us hear, is heavily manipulated and deceptive.

we get to vote for two sides of the same coin, and the percentage of people that vote is really low.

Good analogy. I should qualify my statement since we differ in our nominal definitions of censorship. I consider that when Western media companies manipulate, deceive and suppress dissenting opinions - killing stories, suspending reporters because they do not conform to party lines or the political views of the media owners - that is censure. I would agree that China is more repressive, but my point was to highlight that we don't have total freedom either.

A critical view:
"Censorship is often described as a removal of an individual or groups voice. Censorship is both an incentive and reason to the performance of certain expressions, attitudes, and behaviour, and how a society chooses to organize its system of social control. It contends that we have more to fear from the economic groups who have the power to control the media through ownership and advertising than the state itself. Mass media of communication is no longer a reflection of ideas in the community but are part of a class structure." <--- Inherent class bias and the perpetuation of dominant ideology.