You're obviously twisting what happened and have no moral value for human life or arent smart enough to see an alternative route to save that poor soul.
First of all he was not chasing anyone, he was scared or out of his mind, this day in his adulthood, running through the streets and the cops positioned themselves to be confronted by him... the video doesnt lie.
Second the SPCA use nets when predatory animals are running wild, why such alternative setups arent used to subdue situations like this is because the cops are programed to kill people that act crazy and also the public, like yourself, have been media conditioned not to be outraged when this happens.


edit - short, far away, video of shooting

Another monkey dead, there should be medals handed out.

Although to be fair, I don't think they deserve any awards because they let the pole smoking fatherless mother fucking waste of space and shit scum of humanity, the ones yelling "worldstar", live. I would round them up and kill them too.

Right... so what kind of normal citizen needs to carry a large knife around with them? How do people even get themselves into these situations?

Could be a hundred reasons, maybe its legal drugs called pharmaceuticals, which are given out like candy, that is playing with his mind process. Could be he was living in one of the endless destined ghettos that the CIA distributes crack and heroin in which he has tried out of depression and now is looney from.

The7even your raciest (even if your black) monkey speech sounds like you're being hard pressed by the man, so much so that you think its okay to kill mentally unstable people so that you can get a better edge in the rat race... less Americans, more jobs and food right.


edit - News clip with witness

police bullets are not made to kill.
they're made to not penetrate flesh, therefore can't penetrate armor. the bullets mushroom out to make sure they don't penetrate through the body and hit somebody else, and that the full force of the bullet is exerted into your body, most probably knocking you down. depending on where you're hit, the shock wave from the bullet can rip through your organs and up your neck into your brain.

military bullets are made to penetrate personnel armor and kill.
they travel way faster, are sharp, penetrate armor, then tumble sideways becoming unstable at high speeds, and shattering in your body, like a mini grenade, trying to rupture as many vital organs and fuck your central nervous system up, and the largest part of the bullet exits the back of your body. you will most likely die relatively fast, or bleed to death.

^^^ interesting

I don't think you read my post, I'm not twisting anything. I never said he chased anyone, he charged at police with a knife when cornered. Nor did I say his intentions were to take a hostage, but since he was scared or "out of his mind" as you stated, there could be a possibility he'd take someone hostage out of fear or craze. Not saying he would, but it's possible. I also would not consider him a "poor soul". Do illegal drugs in public in broad daylight, okay whatever, he could be a good person with judgement issues. Carrying a concealed weapon and pulling it on police, I doubt he was Jesus in his past life.

I already think north american law is lenient enough. Anymore so and it would not be a very safe place to live because criminals would just do whatever they want knowing they'd just get a slap on the wrist and be out on the street again to do as they wish. I feel way safer walking down a dark street at midnight with 10k in my bag here in shanghai than I ever did walking empty handed back to my parked car in Yaletown on a busy saturday night.

see no problem there if he actually lunged at the cops with the knife. think about these cops as being more than cops but mothers, fathers, etc. The guy's clearly asking for trouble and it's lucky he didn't hurt any cops or bystanders in that situation.

:lawl: boy you crazy

Hmmmm....Interesting. I learned the opposite when I took ballistics training.

:seriously: Dafuq did I just read?

Based on this post I'm going to guess you don't even have your RPAL let alone any experience with different classes of firearms and ammunition. BRB sharpening my bullets so they travel faster and make a bigger brain impacting shockwave.

is this making headline only because it happened in a touristy/busy area?

very easy to judge and say "trigger happy" from that shaky ass footage when numerous of cops had their guns drawn

Look at it this way, a criminal is riding a knife mounted bike on the street, rather then knock him over with a cop cruiser, you intentionally stand in front of him, shoot him dead and cry self defense. This is murder.

Ulic is in the army...

The police previously tried to subdue him with nonlethal means. Most police forces, especially the NYPD, are trained to aim for centre mass. Sure, it's easy to say "just aim for the knees!" but, trust me, it's a hell of a lot harder than it seems, especially when that suspect is running towards you with intention to harm.

Like the previous quote said, Annie Oakley does not exist... neither do any of Clint Eastwood's characters. You shoot for the knee and miss, there's no telling where that bullet will go once it hits the sidewalk, or a light pole, or a park bench, or whatever it hits next.

They confined his free movement on purpose to shoot him many times dead, thats the plain simple truth.

Well that's the other part of it: you'd do that to protect your co-workers... and so would every other cop there. You have a even half-dozen cops around, they see the guy lunge at one of their comrades... they're not going to just sit back and wait for someone else to fire first. Each one only needs to squeeze off a couple rounds, and the guy is swiss cheese. 10 or 11 shots is minimal if you consider this.

No, they confined his movements in order to make sure he had nowhere else to go because witness reports state that he was taking random swings at people. The purpose of doing so is to show that the suspect has nowhere else to go and should surrender.

Murder would have been the police officer getting out of his car and shooting him without any warnings or attempting to use nonlethal force. The suspect stood up to several rounds of pepper spray, and the officers gave him ample time to surrender. The fact that they allowed this guy to wander several streets before they took the shot amplifies this fact.



Tell me, if you were the officer in charge, what would YOU have done differently?

I would have officers be a block ahead of this possible movements and only a small number tailing him, in civilian uniform (undercover) if possible.
(I wouldnt care if the cities traffic would have to come to a stop for a while, a human life is worth more then the surrounding people skipping lunch or arriving to their appointments on time)
If talking doesnt work I would then order bean bag or plastic bullet guns to be deployed on him, eventually bruising him so much from a distance that he'd tire out and give up from pain.

The damage those bullets do, they can even knock a man out (or kill) if shot to the head.
http://www.mindfully.org/Health/2002...b25may02F2.jpg

A basic strategy to rid mentally handycap (since you dont challenge a knife to a gun fight) people from the country, nice.

Chase him up a tree?

EDIT: http://www.revscene.net/forums/486417-bear-lovers.html

:facepalm:

:facepalm::facepalm:

I'm against excessive force by police but this isn't excessive.

http://www.fishchan.com/meta/src/131594301126.jpg

Had to be done