| RIC_FLAIR | 10-11-2012 11:34 AM |
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Originally Posted by dangonay
(Post 8051965)
Don't you mean the opinion of some news outlets? Did you even read those articles, or did you just look at the title and think "hey, this sounds good"? You remind me of all the conpisracy nuts who post on RS. Everytime you ask them something they respond with "watch this video and you'll understand" or "read this article - it explains everything."
| Oh gee, I guess a judge, the NY Times (with various sources from Google, Nuance, Vlingo, Apple), and a respected game developer are just throwaway sources. Do you want me to keep looking for more commentary? Cause I can keep giving them to you if it changes your mind (unlikely). Forbes? Guardian? CNN? Pick your source. Or are all these news outlets equivalent to YouTube videos on the illuminati to you? Quote:
For example, The Verge article is very close to my point of view. That is, the patent system works good for the most part, but could use a few tweaks and updates. This is very different from the people who think the system is a complete failure and needs an overhaul from the ground up.
| Depends what you mean by tweaks (I doubt that you even know). The whole article sums up that the system needs change to reflect modern software development. You, on the other hand, repeatedly surmise that (software) patents are fine as is and serve their purpose well. I've not mentioned once that the system is a complete failure. It is screwed up and needs changing, that is for sure. Perhaps you should try reading the NY Times article to see for yourself how Apple attempts to wear down the patent office with submissions and how effective it is for them, amongst other problems. Quote:
Here are a few quotes from The Verge article you listed:
Gee, that kinda sounds like what I've been saying all along, and again in my previous post where I explicitly asked for someone to show me why this practice is OK. And then they say this:
Imagine that, a person who admits they know nothing about software development, math or patents is writing an article about why we need changes to the patent system.
| This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. I haven't mentioned FRAND patents once adn that is not the topic of my discussion. Quote:
And how exactly is Apple "twisting facts" to sue competitors? Are you telling me Apple is "tricking" judges into making incorrect decisions?
| No. Thankfully, the judge in question was smart enough to dismiss Apple's ridiculous claims. Apple sued Motorola on the premise that a tap was a zero-length swipe and thus Motorola's unlock mechanism infringed on Apple's patent. I'm guessing this is something that's probably acceptable to you. Quote:
Apple has widened their slide-to-unlock, but the workarounds already done by Android vendors do not infringe this new patent. So please explain why there's something wrong with this patent if it isn't going to affect any existing Android vendors anyway?
| This is up to the courts to decide. There are many ways in which Apple could argue this and I would not be surprised to see them argue that stock Android's unlock "dots" are a static image that you swipe until you reach an unlock region. In fact, the writer of that (broadened slide to unlock) Verge article has plenty of hypothetical claims that could be made by Apple.
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Here is his profile Quote:
Matt Macari is a writer at The Verge, on issues where technology and law intersect. Matt's a lover of technology, who happens also to be a patent attorney.
Matt lives in the Phoenix area with his wife, son and mischievous cat. He is a registered attorney in Arizona, Minnesota, and before the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
| Here are his posts
Regarding stock Android's unlock mechanism: Quote:
Great question. I’ve given it some thought and both sides have an argument. The original unlock image isn’t what is moved — it’s the dotted pattern that moves to an unlock regions (perimeter of circle). That would be Google’s argument.
Apple would likely argue that “an unlock image” moves, defining that as the dotted pattern, or that the image transitions into something else, but still derives from the original unlock image.
| Regarding HTC Quote:
Matt Macari's reply:
And I don’t think HTC’s unlock screen needs you to go past any region to unlock. You just move the circle around on the screen and it only unlocks when you flick away or remove contact of the finger.
Cats-R-Friend's reply:
the region is about an inch, once its freed from the bottom of the screen it is past the region.
then anywhere you drop it the screen unlocks
Matt Macari's reply:
You’re making an argument that Apple would make. I understand it. I’m just saying it’s not a clear cut winner.
| But hey.. the guy is probably a conspiracy theorist. What does he know? | 