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Vancouver house prices to decline further, real estate panel predicts (updated) Spoiler! I really hope housing prices fall significantly (more than 10%) this year. |
Every single person I know from surrey to Vancouver and every city in between had their value go up. So basically the west side 2.5 million dollar 1200 sq foot ranchers go down and they report "housing prices drop" :/ Posted via RS Mobile |
Seems like a lot of doom and gloom in this thread sprinkled with some good points. I think some people are forgetting why Vancouver + GVRD is so good. Weather (best in Canada), leisure activities (any outdoor sport imaginable), standard of living, and general overall vibe. Canada in general is attractive to foreigners with Vancouver being the best city in it. Secondly the GVRD is only so big and has so much land. If you drive within Vancouver city limits you know that their are no areas of vacant land to be developed so demand is high and supply is low. Yes I understand that taxes are high and the night life sucks and the traffic is terrible but these are minor. Im sure if you go back through 15 pages all of this has been covered. Next, the population last year on earth hit 7 billion. 7,000,000,000,000 fuckin people and its still RISING. With Canada being a hot spot for immigration and Vancouver being the most diverse culturally they are going to keep coming to town. Coupled with massive natural resources projects within B.C I see no possible way a "bubble collapse" will happen. Speculators are always going to give a bunch of bull shit and personally I feel they stand to benefit. With all that being said prices are higher than they should be (especially Vancouver), and a small correction and cool off would be a better prediction. |
To counter that Vancouver has no real economy Most of those 7billion people are way too poor to live in and afford Vancouver Vancouver prices as a multiple of earnings (see my first point) are way out of whack Trust me, Vancouver ain't that great, 6 months of rain and constant cloud cannot be made up for by 4 months of pretty nice weather Fundamentals rule, one can always make an argument as to why real estate should go up, short term prices are based on emotion - long term are based on fundamentals |
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and every property i'm speaking of where i know the owner could be sold above assessment value, period. |
Completely to take this on a tangent, but its an idea I've had brewing for awhile. So we have the ALR, the Agricultural Land Reserve to keep fields and such from being at the mercy of a developers whim. In reality, another step before a developer can plant condos instead of tomatoes, but thats not the point here. I think there is a need for the ILR, or Industrial Land Reserve. Vancouver proper is becoming a bedroom community of itself. I think that is going to have a long term impact far more brutal than anything else that has happened. As a for instance. For those that know, in New West, off Columbia by the Petro Can, there is a shitty part of Kingsway, with a bunch of old buildings and such. The city, in infinite wisdom, coming off their famed office tower project wants to work on this area, and turn that area of Kingsway into a walkable neighborhood. I immediately say bullshit. That area may be many things, but walkable, it ain't ever gonna be. A, we don't need another shopping district in New West...we have 5 or 6. And, without picking up a hammer, we already have a beautiful thing...industrial land. I see a place that actually has functional buildings with operational buildings, and instead of tearing the shit down, I want more. Picture an area that has places where you can work, own a shop, own a business, kind of Granville Island-esque and actually have people live AND work in New West. Now, the reason I bring this up, is development seems to mean "condos" we want condos. More and more. New West is right along side every other city building a bedroom community next to a bedroom community. You end up with competing factions against each other. We want a car free future(royal we. I certainly don't), we don't want to live next to an industrial area, so we force them out further and further away, so we need to use cars to get there. Why can't there be a focus on the whole package? |
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Vancouver is not the end all and be all of life. There are a lot of people that like it, but not love it. And I think its reasonable for each and every person to to ask, am I willing to pay the premium to live in Van? If it is, then go ahead. Just know there are others that sit there and question it. The prices are sky high. EVERYONE should be able to see it. WHY? Because a few years ago, everyone was going around on house tours with a building inspector in tow to do on-site inspections during a first viewing, so they could over-bid right there for the house. That was profiled in the news. That's when you know you have a problem. That lady, that I still remember 6 years later, is going to be the same one on the news complaining that her house dropped 10% of fake value. Why else do we have a problem? Because we went to a 40 year fucking mortgage people. It was 25 forever..then suddenly 40 years. You have a problem. |
Im wondering why we have member defending and supporting these ridiculous prices. Explain to me how an average vancouver citizen can afford a home. Most of revscene members are living in their parents homes hoping prices correct themselves to realistic values. |
Foreigners dont do much for Vancouver anymore. Canada became more strict in its immigration policies in line with the USA so many will choose to invest there instead. Would you pay $2.5 million for a fixer upper in dunbar or a fantastic Mediterranean styled home in Pacific Palisades enjoying Californian weather? |
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1. Cars 2. Entertainment 3. Dining 4. Vacation 5. Electronics. Notice these are all hobbies/lifestyle expenses, some are a significant part of ones income. Not much interest/posts in the Business/Financial section. Not many like finances/stocks/savings :( Revscene could become Reposcene if there's a severe housing correction. The two sectors that will get crushed is construction and services. I wonder what the majority of Vancouver's economy rely on..... Remember, The debt to disposable income ratio for Canadian households is at nearly 155%. |
Leasing FTW! |
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How about stop complaining about how you can't afford a home and either rent or work a little harder in your life. Posted via RS Mobile |
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Te second best is to look at an extremely similar property down the road selling within last 21 days or so. You 'knowing' means nothing Prices are coming down - they will continue to go down. I don't 'know' this because I think I'm special or because I refuse to think I'm wrong, nor is it because the media says this or that, it is because fundamentals mandate price. Fundamentals have been calling for a correction, it's coming, you can drink all the Vancouver Kool aid you want, and make this and that claim, but economic truths rule here Do you even live by yourself or work a real job? Based on these answers, I'd hope not - when you get into the business world, you'll start to understand that life is totally different to what you think it is... And for most, it sucks as they don't get that great paying job that they figured they deserved, especially if you stay in Vancouver (not speaking from personal experience, but I could make way more in Calgary, Toronto, or in the US - economies drive prices, FYI, not Kool aid) |
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Shit though, how da hell would I know anything right? Posted via RS Mobile |
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Seems way too many people in Vancouver have the mentality that they just want stuff handed to them and they don't have to work hard, well guess what, if you have an Arts degree or no solid education or vocational training, of course there is no money to be made, stop complaining about being able to afford something and that there is no money to be made, look in the mirror, you only have yourself to blame in most cases. Go out there and improve and better yourself and situation. I can tell you this from 1st hand experience, if you have the right drive or education/training or know how, there is so much money to be made in Vancouver. I'm constantly having trouble filling high waged/salaried positions in film production due to lack of qualified locals and those wanting to work the hours. One of my best friends has been having trouble the last year filling positions for his company in a large post production VFX house that opened in Vancouver last year. I have other associates and friends who are futures and equities brokers clearing solid 5 figures monthly because they're constantly out there working hard and a buddy who just started his own Investor Relations/Marketing firm a year and half ago who is now making money hand over fist. Yes, its not easy for the average person, but nothing is stopping that average person from looking themselves in the mirror and deciding to work harder and to get the right training/educational background. In the right fields, there is a lot of money to be made in Vancouver. Quote:
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