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Old 11-05-2012, 12:03 PM   #1
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2yr old gets killed at Pittsburgh Zoo - mauled by pack of 'African Paint Dogs'

very upsetting and disturbing...

here's a question for you..

a child of yours falls in.. would you immediately go in to save him/her? facing possible death.




UPDATE: Pittsburgh Zoo CEO says boy was killed by dogs, not fall - latimes.com


The 2-year-old Pennsylvania boy who died at the Pittsburgh Zoo over the weekend bounced two times on a protective netting after falling off a railing and into an African painted dog exhibit, where the dogs then attacked and killed him, the zoo's chief executive said Monday.

Barbara Baker, who has been with the zoo since 1990, occasionally looked distressed during the morning news conference as she answered questions Sunday's tragedy -- what she said is the first visitor death in the venue's more-than-100-year history.

“The zoo feels terrible that this tragic accident happened," she said, then choking up as she added, “It’s the worst nightmare, as a zoo professional."

Witnesses told police that the boy's unidentified 34-year-old mother, from Pleasant Hills, Pa., had sat him on the 4-foot railing along an elevated viewing area. Then he fell.

“From witnesses’ accounts, the child was so small that he bounced, he bounced twice, and then he bounced into the exhibit," Baker said, after taking a long pause. "So the safety net did catch him, it just didn’t hold him.”

Staffers rushed to the scene but it was too late, Baker said. “It happened so quickly, it happened literally in seconds, it was very, very quick," she said. "There was very, very little anybody could do.”

Police shot one dog that refused to retreat from the exhibit when called. Baker said a medical examination showed that the boy had been killed by the dogs, not the fall.

The zoo passed recent inspections and "discouraged" visitors from putting children on such railings, Baker said, although she did not elaborate on whether there were specific policies or regulations in place.

She acknowledged there were no warning signs on the enclosure's railing.

Police are investigating the incident and Baker said that the zoo would, too.

The dogs, who Baker said are the most endangered canine species in the world, will not be put down. They have been put into a 30-day quarantine and the exhibit will be closed until further notice; police now have custody of the scene.

The rest of the zoo, however, was scheduled to reopen Tuesday, Baker said, so that visitors could pay their respects. She said zoo officials around the world have sent condolences.

One reporter asked Baker whether she took responsibility for not creating a fail-proof exhibit.

"Life is full of risk," she said. "There’s no fail-proof part of risk in life. We do everything we possibly can and evaluate it every day. The safety not only of our visitors but our staff as well. We work with wild animals, we work with dangerous animals every day."

The reporter interrupted and pressed her: Do you take responsibility for not creating a failproof exhibit?

“There is no such thing as a failproof exhibit," she said.

Officials had already reviewed the park for safety and will continue to look at other potential changes, she said.
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the boy's unidentified 34-year-old mother, from Pleasant Hills, Pa., had sat him on the 4-foot railing along an elevated viewing area. Then he fell


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One reporter asked Baker whether she took responsibility for not creating a fail-proof exhibit.

"Life is full of risk," she said. "There’s no fail-proof part of risk in life. We do everything we possibly can and evaluate it every day. The safety not only of our visitors but our staff as well. We work with wild animals, we work with dangerous animals every day."

The reporter interrupted and pressed her: Do you take responsibility for not creating a failproof exhibit?

“There is no such thing as a failproof exhibit," she said.

Officials had already reviewed the park for safety and will continue to look at other potential changes, she said.
What a dick reporter.. I bet if you put all the exhibits in solid glass boxes, people then would moan that it's animal cruelty, and they should be free.

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man that is real sad..i have a 4month old and i cant imagine what the father was going through when it was happening
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Fail proof? More like people need to be idiot proofed.

Its not like the toddler climbed up and over the ledge. She was put on there by her idiot mother.

And yea, I have a feeling that murder is the case. The only way a child would fall is if left unattended.. At the very least, the mother should face some type of negligience causing death, charges.
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rip. but the parent shouldnt have put the kid on the railing as well.
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As cruel as it may sound, I don't think the fault should be placed on the zoo but rather on the mother. It should be common sense to not place a kid on a railing especially over such danger, I just think it's darwin's theory doing it's magic.
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heard that they're unsure if the fall killed him or the dogs

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Police shot one dog that refused to retreat from the exhibit when called. Baker said a medical examination showed that the boy had been killed by the dogs, not the fall.
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As cruel as it may sound, I don't think the fault should be placed on the zoo but rather on the mother.
doesn't sound cruel at all. sounds factual.

+1 on the retard reporter. great answer by the lady though:

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This raises a lot of questions..both about the zoo and some shitty parenting
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Honestly I put no blame on the zoo... They have precautions set in place. If the kid was heavier/bigger he probably would have stayed in the safety net. There's no reason for you to put a fidgety 2 year old on a railing to get a better view. The kid probably didn't even know wtf is going on when he was at the zoo.
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The zoo passed recent inspections and "discouraged" visitors from putting children on such railings, Baker said, although she did not elaborate on whether there were specific policies or regulations in place.

The zoo is liable and should've taken into account one of these light babies rolling into the pen. I would award the parents a low end settlement of 100-300k+ because of the nature of the freak accident... A zoo isnt suppose to be animal viewing in the African wild, a zoo should at all times be a safe place.
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There's no reason for you to put a fidgety 2 year old on a railing to get a better view. The kid probably didn't even know wtf is going on when he was at the zoo.
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I stay the fuck away from railings in the mall for that reason. Blew my mind knowing that parents who put their kids in harms way like that.
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The zoo passed recent inspections and "discouraged" visitors from putting children on such railings, Baker said, although she did not elaborate on whether there were specific policies or regulations in place.

The zoo is liable and should've taken into account one of these light babies rolling into the pen. I would award the parents a low end settlement of 100-300k+ because of the nature of the freak accident... A zoo isnt suppose to be animal viewing in the African wild, a zoo should at all times be a safe place.
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They skimped out on real safety, the zoo should pay. It doesnt take a genius to devise a proper barrier.
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If we put walls or barriers in every single public spot where someone *could* drop their kid, we would have to put full glass windows or giant nets in every mall, workplace, 2+ story building, stadium, office, etc.

Furthermore, the zoo recently passed inspections. Which means that it was fully compliant with what the authorities felt were reasonable safety measures. If anyone gets blamed, it needs to be the zoo safety standards organization.
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oh look a barrier to keep me from falling into danger. may be a good idea to prop my kid on top of it.



would anyone in their right mind balance their kid on the 2nd floor railing at Metrotown?

how about outside a hotel window?....oh wait....

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Fail proof? More like people need to be idiot proofed.

Its not like the toddler climbed up and over the ledge. She was put on there by her idiot mother.

And yea, I have a feeling that murder is the case. The only way a child would fall is if left unattended.. At the very least, the mother should face some type of negligience causing death, charges.
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Couldn't have put it better myself. Such a shame that the kid had to pay for the mother's stupidity.
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Furthermore, the zoo recently passed inspections. Which means that it was fully compliant with what the authorities felt were reasonable safety measures. If anyone gets blamed, it needs to be the zoo safety standards organization.
are you going to let big brother tell you what's adequate for your protection?! the more at risk you are; the quicker you die; the poorer you are the better for them! don't let their safety inspections fool you one bit!

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