Intel kills off the desktop, PCs go with it

[Mr.HappySilp]

Originally Posted by AzNightmare

I wouldn't doubt that, but only until they have the technology to literally cram a desktop into a machine the size of a laptop.

But that still wouldn't explain the future accepting 17" screens (especially when big monitors are the latest trend) and miniature size keyboards.


The only people I know who use laptops are people who don't really use computers much in the first place. Maybe just to surf the net for 30 mins a day or do some homework. (I'm excluding people who have laptops for business and are always on the go)

Actually i know a handful of people who use gaming laptops to game. They live in apartments or have roomate and having a desktop takes too much space. I myself uses my laptop to watch movies, play games surf the web, school work..... Laptops are becoming more mainstream in house holds. Desktop will still have its place (cheaper compare to a laptop, gaming desktops, office).

[shenmecar]

Originally Posted by asian_XL

wait until ARM can catch up Intel.

ARMs too busy with mobile.

[SkinnyPupp]

ARM isn't anywhere close to x86 performance

[Spoon]

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp

Laptops are becoming more mainstream in house holds. Desktop will still have its place (cheaper compare to a laptop, gaming desktops, office).

I'd take a full size keyboard over a laptop any day whether it be work or gaming. Has nothing to do with cost.

[twitchyzero]

^ you could just buy a keyboard and monitor for your laptop...

[Purely]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

^ you could just buy a keyboard and monitor for your laptop...

The feeling is different, it just isn't the same thing. Whether it is gaming, watching movies, writing a paper, etc, I prefer to do it on a desktop, because it is a lot more comfortable.

[Spoon]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

^ you could just buy a keyboard and monitor for your laptop...

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by gYU

The feeling is different, it just isn't the same thing. Whether it is gaming, watching movies, writing a paper, etc, I prefer to do it on a desktop, because it is a lot more comfortable.

How is the feeling different? when you are using a desktop keyboard and mouse?


The desktop for most people is dead. students buy laptops for school and when they finish school the keep using laptops. The only people that need desktops are heavy gamers and power users. I really like the AIO style computer. I bought one for my sister and the office. Takes up a lot less space. My bother who runs an accounting firm uses a laptop with a docking station with 2 monitors at work.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by gYU

The feeling is different, it just isn't the same thing. Whether it is gaming, watching movies, writing a paper, etc, I prefer to do it on a desktop, because it is a lot more comfortable.

Same here. My theory is because my laptop's screen isn't very good. It's only 1280x720, the contrast is pretty horrible, and the viewing angle is bad.

[Akinari]

Since I gave my old gaming desktop to my mum, I didn't have a desktop until recently (waiting for finals to finish to assemble it). I've got an i5-3210, HD4000 + HD7670M (running in parallel with leshcat drivers) hooked up to a 23" screen with a mouse and keyboard.

Functions just like a desktop and it's just as powerful too.

[AzNightmare]

Well, if you hooked your keyboard and monitor to the laptop, then technically, it's physically the same...
But kind of defeats the purpose since you're still buying several desktop items.

As convenient as laptops are, any serious PC gamer or people that use
Adobe/Autodesk softwares for work simply can't rely on a laptop.

Originally Posted by Manic!

The only people that need desktops are heavy gamers and power users.

This. But you make it sound like there's next to none of these people left on the planet.
Depending on the industry of work, there's actually plenty of jobs that can't just dock a laptop
and expect it to be powerful enough.

And if you really think about it, a laptop almost takes up just as much space
if someone plans to dock it and hook it up with a keyboard and a monitor.
The only difference is the slightly more leg space under your table because there's no tower.


Perhaps for the regular user, the laptop might be more common,
but I don't see the desktop being dead any time soon, since there's still so many people that need it,
and simply the massive amount of computer enthusiasts,
who rather have options on parts to build and personalize their PC's.

[Akinari]

The thing about desktops is obviously they're customizable/upgradable when hardware gets old. The same can't be said about laptops, so generally speaking desktops are a much better investment, so to speak...

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by AzNightmare

Well, if you hooked your keyboard and monitor to the laptop, then technically, it's physically the same...
But kind of defeats the purpose since you're still buying several desktop items.

As convenient as laptops are, any serious PC gamer or people that use
Adobe/Autodesk softwares for work simply can't rely on a laptop.



This. But you make it sound like there's next to none of these people left on the planet.
Depending on the industry of work, there's actually plenty of jobs that can't just dock a laptop
and expect it to be powerful enough.

And if you really think about it, a laptop almost takes up just as much space
if someone plans to dock it and hook it up with a keyboard and a monitor.
The only difference is the slightly more leg space under your table because there's no tower.


Perhaps for the regular user, the laptop might be more common,
but I don't see the desktop being dead any time soon, since there's still so many people that need it,
and simply the massive amount of computer enthusiasts,
who rather have options on parts to build and personalize their PC's.

Lenovo, PH and other companies make desktop replacement notebooks. Some with Desktop CPU's and dual video cards. AnandTech - AVADirect Clevo X7200: Six Cores, SSD RAID, and GTX 480M SLI Yields World's Fastest DTR Notebook

The amount of computer enthusiasts is pretty small I would say only a few % of the entire market.

Originally Posted by akinari-kun

The thing about desktops is obviously they're customizable/upgradable when hardware gets old. The same can't be said about laptops, so generally speaking desktops are a much better investment, so to speak...

Depends on what you are using it for. mFor the average person a modern computer is more powerful than what they need.

[Purely]

Originally Posted by Manic!

How is the feeling different? when you are using a desktop keyboard and mouse?


The desktop for most people is dead. students buy laptops for school and when they finish school the keep using laptops. The only people that need desktops are heavy gamers and power users. I really like the AIO style computer. I bought one for my sister and the office. Takes up a lot less space. My bother who runs an accounting firm uses a laptop with a docking station with 2 monitors at work.

Everything is different, I guess it's hard to explain. The monitor size, viewing angle, sitting/typing posture, leaving my computer on overnights, ability to upgrade/swap parts, etc. To each of their own, it depends on what you're used to I guess. I only use my laptop when I'm at school/away.

Also, I can't imagine how annoying it is to reconnect my keyboard/mouse/speakers/printers/etc if I only have one laptop, and use it daily for school. With desktop keyboard/mouse, not exactly saving much space anymore.

I don't believe desktops will die, because many corporations are still using them. With technology advancing, it will be interesting to see how far tablets go, and the possibility of them taking a greater share of the consumer laptop market. E.g., I'm seeing more tablets now, some connected with keyboards in lectures taking notes, or reading e-texts.

[AzNightmare]

Originally Posted by Manic!

Lenovo, PH and other companies make desktop replacement notebooks. Some with Desktop CPU's and dual video cards. AnandTech - AVADirect Clevo X7200: Six Cores, SSD RAID, and GTX 480M SLI Yields World's Fastest DTR Notebook

The amount of computer enthusiasts is pretty small I would say only a few % of the entire market.

Depends on what you are using it for. mFor the average person a modern computer is more powerful than what they need.

On paper, I wouldn't doubt a laptop can push out similar specs as a desktop.

But I can only imagine how overheated a serious gaming/performance laptop would get without enough space to accommodate for big enough heatsinks or cramming in small fans that will need to spin at insanely high rpms (to make up for lack of size) will be deafening.

On paper, that laptop you posted seems to match up well, but the heavy price tag is quite ridiculous. And no one will actually use the laptop itself without hooking it up to a real monitor. Maybe two. And a standard sized keyboard as well, which just adds more to the pricing. It's basically going to be used as a mini desktop tower with inadequate cooling. So like I said before, the only space a laptop is saving in the end is just leg room under the table.

If anything, I would think tablet/hybrids like the ASUS Transformers are threatening to make laptops extinct in the future.

[underscore]

Oh ffs, so now if you want to swap mobo's for whatever reason (added features, hardware fault, etc you'll have to buy a new CPU as well? I could see doing this with some low end stuff, but not their whole lineup.

Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo

for non techie consumers POV.. they just want something that works good without the hassle of know whats the difference between this motherboard or if its compatible with this cpu..

So they can go buy a prebuilt machine. I'm getting really tired of everything being made for the least-technical denominator, the kinds of people that can't even use Google to research something before buying.

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by AzNightmare

On paper, I wouldn't doubt a laptop can push out similar specs as a desktop.

But I can only imagine how overheated a serious gaming/performance laptop would get without enough space to accommodate for big enough heatsinks or cramming in small fans that will need to spin at insanely high rpms (to make up for lack of size) will be deafening.

On paper, that laptop you posted seems to match up well, but the heavy price tag is quite ridiculous. And no one will actually use the laptop itself without hooking it up to a real monitor. Maybe two. And a standard sized keyboard as well, which just adds more to the pricing. It's basically going to be used as a mini desktop tower with inadequate cooling. So like I said before, the only space a laptop is saving in the end is just leg room under the table.

Laptops like that are for people that need access to there work at all times and for people that travel for work. A comparable desktop is going to be a larger and a lot harder to move.

[Presto]

Businesses will still need desktops, for non-mobile users. I can't see that ever going away. Sure, you can use a laptop, and dock it with dual screens and input devices, but these work computers aren't, and shouldn't, be portable. IT departments would go ape shit from thefts, accidental damage, and proprietary hardware.

[AzNightmare]

Originally Posted by Manic!

Laptops like that are for people that need access to there work at all times and for people that travel for work. A comparable desktop is going to be a larger and a lot harder to move.

I agree with that. Which is why I don't think the desktop is going to be dead...
People that travel for work or need access to their computer at all times is quite a low percentage in the entire market.

[SkinnyPupp]

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