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Old 12-27-2012, 09:16 PM   #76
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The number of ways in which this could bite you in the ass is huge, and it could easily cost you piles of money and ruin your good relationship with your neighbour if something goes wrong. If for some crazy reason you did decide to let him do this I'd tell him he needs to hire a minimum of:

2 structural PEng's
2 builders
2 realtors to assess the change in value to your property
2 lawyers to draw up paperwork covering any potential issues
Some kind of fire and safety inspector (as it's a BBQ)

All of your choice. And then see if he still wants this silly BBQ.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:04 PM   #77
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This reminds me of my a situation one of my uncles had. He owns 6 acres, and a strip of land on the side of his properly that runs beside his house and through the back yard is designated as a hydro line right-of-way (Although it has never been used as such, nor will it likely ever be).

One day this guy buys the property behind my uncle with the intention of developing it and building a house for himself. He actually asks my uncle if he could use this strip of land as a driveway for his house (It would link to his back yard, because to build a driveway to the street on the front of this guy's house would be super expensive due to a super steep hill).

My uncle flatly tells this guy no, and the guy has the gall to say "We'll see about that".
My uncle never understood what he meant by that, he thought maybe this guy was going to try and take him to court over it, but right-of-ways don't exactly work like that, it's still my uncle's property.

The guy eventually spent the money to have the property cleared, and the steep driveway to the front excavated (never paved), a house was never built, services were never brought in. Then the property sat for 10 years, until it was just recently foreclosed and put up for auction.

Moral of the story: Figure your shit out BEFORE you go and design something. Don't just EXPECT others to accomodate you.
We had the same thing. Back east, we had 25 acres of land with our house. One xmas, we're up in the bush cutting a christmas tree, and we hear this guy rustling up through the brush 5 minutes after turning off the chainsaw. My fam had lived there for 15 years at that point, and he was new. So up he comes to make sure we weren't cutting trees on his property. He was friendly, but kind of dickish.

My father says no, I'm on my side of the line. Even further, when we bought, I cut and marked the perimeter. I know where they are.

Buddy keeps going, and actually dropped in the conversation, "well, you know, good lines make good neighbors."

Never saw him again. No house, no grand development.

People like to swing their dicks around everywhere...its not necessarily a Vancouver thing.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:30 PM   #78
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straight trade. the little slice of your car port for his hopefully very attractive 20 year old daughter.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:43 PM   #79
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You have your answer, but in typical Vancouver fashion, you're soooo concerned over nothing that you'd rather say "no" then let someone else fulfill their dream of an outdoor BBQ.

Typical asshole.
Owning a piece of land with a house on it in Vancouver is far from "nothing",it's the single biggest and most valuable possesion anyone can have.

If you owned a house that was worth roughly a million dollars,would you make sure your investment was protected at all times and made decisions that would not jeopardize it's worth? I sure the fuck would.

If I were in the OP's situation and the my neighbor kept asking me about it,even after I told him my answer was no several times,I would tell him straight up "FUCK OFF".I would not even care if I have good relations with him anymore,cause you already know things have changed the second you don't let him do what he wants,then you will see his true colors come out.

I own my home,it will be fully paid off in 6 more years...no more mortgage.I have worked my ass off in many ways to buy,maintain and keep the house mine,the fuck if I'm going to let anyone try and dictate what I should be doing on my own property.

Oh one more thing,I have heard from the grapevine on my block that some of the neighbors think I'm a asshole....I would rather be a asshole than a pushover that's for sure.
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Op good that you dad is sticking with "no"

So the opinions were 100 to 1 lol in favor of NO
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Hey Obama we're just going to take a few square km out of washington state to make a beaver sanctuary. You aren't using it anyways so just be a good neighbor.
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You could just as easily have a happy neighbor who would probably bring you BBQ food and let you use the BBQ for such a tiny piece of land, but instead you're selfishly worried about an area of your property that you don't even use.

In the grand scheme of things, it would not affect your life in the least, but could possibly make someone else very happy. That in itself would be enough for me to say "As long as it's safe and done by a professional, go for it, I expect an invite for your backyard parties!"
Umm how aobut no?
1. THE OP pays for his house including the peice of land his neighbour ask. Why should he give away something for FREE? Espeically it will affect his property price in the future(less land = less price).
2. What if the BBQ caught fire or cause an accident? What is going to pay? What is going to cover the cost? Who is going to deal with all the shit that comes after?
3. Private issue. What if the OP decided to suntan in his year or just realx but his neighbour is there BBQing? It might affect the OP's lifestyle.
4. The smells WILL sink into the walls and inside of the OP house making it smell like BBQ(Ever been to a house where the home owner always cook curry? Yea the WHOLE house smells like curry). The BBQ smell will affect the house vale when OP decides to sell it.
5. Structural issue. What if this BBQ will affect structure of the OP's house. What if the local gov finds out and wants it remove due to it being not legal then who pays for it?
6. What if the neighbour is a messy guy and get's the BBQ messy and never cleans it? Then who will clean it in the end? if no one cleans it there will be ants all over the place, bees and not to mention it smells bad.
7. What if the neighbour likes to have BBQ parties and make a mess at the OP's property since the BBQ is on the OP's side.

Being nice to neighbour is one thing but giving away a piece of land is another story.

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Old 12-28-2012, 08:21 AM   #83
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i got it...next time the neighbour comes over....

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Yeah, he was completely astonished my dad said no, like he couldn't believe my dad wouldn't agree to his proposal. I'll update the thread after my dad breaks the bad news again.

haha, thanks murd0c.
Bothers me a little that your neighbor designed his silly bbq location naturally assuming you guys would give up the land without even a set agreement. Selfishness at its finest.. his first step should have been asking you guys for an agreement FIRST prior to hiring his engineer and designing his desired bbq location.
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Haha... I'm the only person who would consider it?!

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Thanks for all the responses everyone. I showed my parents this thread and they appreciate all the feedback.
Great to hear they made the right choice.

lol, mx703, remember that time you told us about how you hid all that cocaine in your parents house, then sold it to fund that illegal cock fighting ring? good times..
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the wall fails, who do you think will be held liable? you

glad you're not doing it
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Great to hear they made the right choice.

lol, mx703, remember that time you told us about how you hid all that cocaine in your parents house, then sold it to fund that illegal cock fighting ring? good times..
speaking of that he still owes me $1500 for the ladies of the night I brought for him...
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speaking of that he still owes me $1500 for the ladies of the night I brought for him...
Yes, "ladies".

They certainly weren't Thai lady-boys, that were riddled with HIV...

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Yes, "ladies".

They certainly weren't Thai lady-boys, that were riddled with HIV...

nope, he told me he wanted to take a break from them that weekend
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am i the only one that thinks it's dangerous a vehicle so close to a bbq in terms of oil/fumes leaking into the bbq? ie when the rain washes the oil into the proposed bbq pit?
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if the engineer thinks it won't effect the wall i'm guessing he/she also took into accord that a bbq will be heating and cooling a cement wall in a moist environment. i'd guess the wall was reinforced with rebar and that the engineer is saying it will not faill under load with this whole or under stress from heat. how ever, it might still crack and that could cost you for resale later.
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