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Old 01-06-2013, 10:55 PM   #26
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It takes 3 seconds to unlock an electronic safe. Another 3 seconds to unlock a combo trigger lock. 1 Second to put a loaded magazine into the pistol. That's less than 10 seconds to get yourself ready to use your gun.

Yes, you can technically have a loaded magazine next to your pistol, while both locked in a gun safe. The law states:

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6. An individual may store a restricted firearm only if

(a) it is unloaded;

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(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked; and

(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in

(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked.
Meaning, if you have safe that's designed specifically for guns, you can put your unloaded pistol in there, with your ammo in the magazine next to it (but not IN the gun), and this would be considered "legal".

The charges by the crown prosecutor was bogus in that they were trying to make an example out of him, so to set a precedent for any other gun owners out there that may want to use guns for self-defense purposes.

Glad that he was acquitted, but 2.5 years of legal battle and a 60k legal bill are absolutely ridiculous for someone to have to go through, when all he did was trying to save his own life in the face of imminent danger.

Something is very wrong with our judicial system when you have to prove your innocence in court after defending your own life with legally owned guns , and the criminals only got 2~4 years for attempted murder. If he had been found guilty of the "careless use of firearms" charges, he would've gone to jail for at least a couple years.

Does that make ANY sense at all? Honestly.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:28 AM   #28
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Canadian Law has got to be the biggest joke of our country.

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Why does our government give rights to defend to law breakers when they chose NOT to live by law?
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It takes 3 seconds to unlock an electronic safe. Another 3 seconds to unlock a combo trigger lock. 1 Second to put a loaded magazine into the pistol. That's less than 10 seconds to get yourself ready to use your gun.
7 seconds is way to long to be fumbling with a gun,especially if the crooks are already in your place.

I have no guns in my house,I don't even want any type of firearm on my property.I keep a few machetes and bear mace around the house just for stuff like this.

That is provided they get past my pets first.
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It takes 3 seconds to unlock an electronic safe. Another 3 seconds to unlock a combo trigger lock. 1 Second to put a loaded magazine into the pistol. That's less than 10 seconds to get yourself ready to use your gun.
Just to note: it took Thompson 38 seconds to re-enact the process in court.

The crux of the case being timing, I don't think these charges should have been pursued.

Thompson's case is full of indiscrepancies, though.

I'd accept any bet the guns were unlocked, loaded, and stashed around the house; it's impossible to prove of course.
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There's a saying: "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6."

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It takes 3 seconds to unlock an electronic safe. Another 3 seconds to unlock a combo trigger lock. 1 Second to put a loaded magazine into the pistol. That's less than 10 seconds to get yourself ready to use your gun.
Don't forget though, unless you're military, law enforcement, or someone else with a lot of training and nerves of steel... shit is getting real, your adrenaline is pumping, and you're probably looking over your shoulder not knowing what's coming next; so you're probably fumbling to get the key into the key lock, possibly take a couple tries to insert some ammo in the gun (depending on the type of magazine)... in short, realistically you should at least double that time.

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Glad that he was acquitted, but 2.5 years of legal battle and a 60k legal bill are absolutely ridiculous for someone to have to go through, when all he did was trying to save his own life in the face of imminent danger.

Something is very wrong with our judicial system when you have to prove your innocence in court after defending your own life with legally owned guns , and the criminals only got 2~4 years for attempted murder. If he had been found guilty of the "careless use of firearms" charges, he would've gone to jail for at least a couple years.

Does that make ANY sense at all? Honestly.
If I was a gazillionaire, I'd love to set up some kind of fund to help defends these types of cases, where the law goes nuts.
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