Idle No More A while back I asked another member on Revscene just what the Idle No More movement was. From the best I could surmise it was something involving aboriginals in Canada protesting against Stephen Harper. I'm not aware of any legislation that Harper had created to cause such ire but the movement continues and it appears that some lady is on a hunger strike because she wants to meet Stephen Harper. Today I see that there are bridges and borders being blocked and that a ferry in Victoria is also being blocked as a result of this movement. I can see a lot of people kicking a lot of dirt up about "rights being violated" but even after reading a bunch of articles on the issue I still don't fully understand it. Is this an #Occupy movement? Is the Native community going to demand Harper be removed from office despite his official apology for residential schools and a promise to update the Indian act? How will CharlesInCharge insist that this is somehow a Jewish conspiracy? Can someone answer any or all of these questions? I think this warrants discussion. |
Theresa Spence is on a hunger strike, in protest to omnibus bill C45, which really doesn't do much on the Indian Act except cut out red tape should a Band want to lease to outside interests....something that has mired any development for years. DeBeers has entered into contracts with Attiwapiskat to the tune of around $40M, but it took years to broker. She's on a hunger strike, yet is documented as drinking medicinal teas, fish and moose broth. ( No docs could be found that she's drinking boost)....so in fact, she's on a diet?....there are a lot of people who do what she's doing at this time of the year...it's called cleansing.....but ok. At the rate she's going, the so-called "hunger strike" could last for years.........and yet some people are calling her a modern day Ghandi? Ms. Spence conveniently went on her protest at a time when she was in the centre of a growing controversy over where her band has spent millions in transfer payments since 2006. Which as of Dec 2012 amounted to $131,000,000.00 for a community of 1549. Her own people were afraid to speak out to the press, fearing repercussions. After viewing her bands financials as they have been reported for the last 6 years, I can safely say that if this were a Municipality, someone would be charged under the Municipal Act. Hunger Strike = Misdirection. The fact that so many other bleeding hearts buy it hook line and sinker is a sad commentary on the state of peoples awareness. There's definitely a lot of mismanagement going on in Attiwapiskat. Just before they declared the housing crisis they shipped in a brand new Zamboni for their brand new arena. Let's not even get into the fact that she appointed her common law husband as Band Manager.........nepotism at it's finest......but just a wee bit of conflict of interest. I wonder what he drives? So many of her band mates are living 3 families to a construction trailer, or in shacks that are tarped....and she's driving an Escalade..... Fact checking a hunger strike - Ezra Levant Too many first nations people live in a dream palace - The Globe and Mail |
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El Bastardo, If you've not read this article, you may find it heightens your understanding somewhat; an excerpt: Quote:
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When I crossed earlier in the afternoon to Blaine, I saw the protest but they weren't being disruptive. American border patrol and local Blaine police kept a close eye on them though. |
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I also read this: 9 questions about Idle No More - Canada - CBC News Which contradicts some other things I've read on Twitter and in blog postings. I may not like that hippie Harper either but until they're sure about what they want, I can't say I support the Idle No More movement. |
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Seems like more Occupy bullshit to me. Seriously, she's been on hunger strike for three weeks and hasn't lost a pound? Gandhi damn near died. This lady is just bullshitting us. |
WAIT... Looking through the financials, they own shares of Enbridge, which I believe is the corp bringing that pipeline through BC? ...and they're complaining about pipelines? They're also bigger Apple shareholders than I am. :lol |
Pretty good article on G&M Too many first nations people live in a dream palace - The Globe and Mail |
Does anyone know whats in bill c-45? The thing is 400 pages long. How the hell has time to read all that. |
what have natives done for this country anyways? |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnvh66A1Wvc But really what a dumb post you made. |
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I smh at Chief Spence. And CBC just reporting half the story in their articles, clearly sticking to their own agendas rather than the truth. Playing with propaganda, that's what they are. |
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I wanted to say is that what have they done for the Country to where it is at now? All I can see is that they just keep wanting more $$ from the gov because we took their land. Sure, they are part of Canada's history, but the history is constantly changing so they got to LET GO. This is total out of whack. In 2006, Aboriginal people in Canada - First Nations, Métis and Inuit - surpassed the one-million mark, reaching 1,172,790. A lot of them don't live in Native reserves. With population increase and what not, let's say 1,200,000 for 2012. File Not Found | Fichier non trouvé In 2011, Department of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development had a yearly budget of 7.4 BILLION dollars. http://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/13...6/1315184508951 That's about $6168 per person per year spent on top of all the regular stuff a Canadian citizen gets. (plus extra benefits Aboriginal person is entitled to) Just what is being done with this money? |
This is why I started this thread. Revscene has thousands of members and most of us have no idea wtf is going on. This thread has almost two dozen posts and we're still confused. Part of the reason I didn't support the #Occupy movement is because the objective was unclear beyond people just yelling 'RICH BAD! RICH BAD!' This right here is the #Occupy movement in a single (and local) news clip CTV News at 6: Mi-Jung Lee gets confronted by an Occupy Vancouver idiot - YouTube "We're mad at the establishment but we're too lazy to try to get elected to enact change from within. Yelling at news cameras and choking public areas out with our masses is much easier" |
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Attawapiskat is pro-development, the contract they have with De Beers is evidence of that position. It is not at all surprisingly that Attawapiskat invests in development companies, it's consistent with the general position they take on resources. Not all Bands are Pro-Development, and some of them have spoken out against the Enbridge pipeline. |
Idle no more is a cranky child at dinnertime who declines all offered food and complains they aren't being fed while asking to eat candy instead. They want 'something done' or 'changes' then proceed to shutdown any and all changes that aren't just wheelbarrows of cash then complain that nothing is being done or things never change. While real nations negotiate trade deals and cooperate to enhance economic development too many native nations are unwilling to do either. Quote:
Chief Spence heads to hotel “to shower and nap” – Is that where she’s really been staying? « BC Blue: One BC Conservative's view on it all… |
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The Indian Act defines an Aboriginal person as a ward of the Federal Government, and thus, costs related to social expenses normally covered at the Provincial level are shifted to the budget you cite. The $6168 average per person does not contribute to a slush fund, it covers elementary, highschool, and post-secondary education (where applicable), health care costs, including clinic and hospitals visits, social services, and yes, a limited measure of funds to cover the cost of housing. The funds are not for special and dedicated to reparations, rather they are little different than those received by ordinary Canadians except allocated through a different agency. Just to elaborate further - Aboriginal people are required to pay taxes under all but select circumstances. Aboriginal people are only tax exempt if employed on land held by a Reserve; I'm not positive, but under certain circumstances, ordinary Canadians would receive the same exemption employed on a reserve. Aboriginal people also are not merely seeking ongoing payments from the Federal Government. Tsawwassen is a good local example, they've volunteered to relinquish any special funding, and taking it as step further, begin paying the Federal Government taxes on revenue generated on the reserve. Quote:
Spence has not been secretive about trips to shower, and anything other accusation is conjecture. Spence isn't Ghandi, she's not too hard off given the showers and moose broth, but she's also not compared herself to any other protester or exaggerated her own duress. |
When I first heard of "Idle no more", I assumed that it was something about drivers reducing/eliminating idling. Lol. From what I can interpret, this "Idle No More" protest was about the new proposed Bill as people have mentioned. And why it relates to Theresa Spence? She wanted to use her past fame/notoriety to bring more light to the proposed Bill. And it wouldn't be surprising if she wants to be bring more support for more funding for Attawapiskat. Those financials....the administration/employee payables are definitely up there. The sad fact is, none of us will actually know what most of those band members actually do. For all we know, they could be shuffling papers and being paid 50,000. And the administration fees on some of those programs...Jesus. TL DR: 1. Idle No More: Started by a group of 4 concerned about the proposed Bill (Infringing on their rights and abilities to say no) 2. Day after the first call to action protest, Theresa Spence joins in with her crazy antics of Starvation. 3. Theresa Spence's fame of Attawapiskat drastically overshadows the main "Idle No More" protest. i.e//funding, housing crisis, mismanagement. 4. >20,000 facebook likes and protestors don't have no fucken clue what they are protesting about. i.e// Kony 2012,2013, Occupy, Yolo What's up with that Band Member being paid just over 120,000. I want to know his responsibilities. |
ezra levant... really? really? :fulloffuck: never thought id see anyone remotely reasonable quoting the Ann Coulter of Canada as for that blog :fuckthatshit: and she is subsisting on fish soup as for any other remarks on her hunger strike you could read this first How a hunger strike affects the body - Canada - CBC News |
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