[I realize how much of a hypocrite I sound like, but it's equally as ridiculous that the police can pull you over for doing nothing wrong.[/QUOTE] Cops don't have to wait until you do something wrong. It's not rediculous to stop a driver to check if they are impaired, prohibited, unlicenced, to check if goods are stowed safely etc. the Cdn Supreme Court says it's Ok to check for those types of things. I stopped tens of thousands of vehicles in exactly those circumstances. I told them up front why they were being stopped and not one ever objected if they were not breaking any law. |
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The vehicles I stopped often were doing the speed limit, or just driving by. I used to sit in the middle of the road in a protected lane area and stop vehicles at random as they drove/rode by. You would be surprised at what I found being done by people not visibly exhibiting any criminal/illegal behaviour. Stolen property, outstanding warrants, stolen vehicles, no insurance, drugs, prohibited drivers, impaired drivers, severely defective vehicles (rusted frames, bald tyres etc), weapons..... |
^ These "profiling" methods being enforced at will by the Police quite often breach our rights as Citizens, bottom line is the bottom line you can't argue that in any form or manner I don't care if you're the gotdamn Prime Minister. And what's ridiculous to me, is how the Police absolutely love to justify these methods, but when it really comes down to the nitty gritty, it doesn't even really work the way it's supposed too... I remember reading in the news some guy get pulled over with kilos of Cocaine and end up having charges dropped because because the officer at the scene exceeded his authority.. Not that I'm condoning this idiot and his drug smuggling, but I will neither condone a Canadian Citizen's Charter Rights being breached. Police here tend to get caught up in the "end justifies the means" mentality which off course works so well in countries like the US. *end sarcasm* edit:: link here Supreme court quashes drug conviction over illegal search - Canada - CBC News |
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And with respect to the link you posted, mistakes happen. Police officers are human, and the general public are protected, too much imho, by the Charter of Rights, where loophpoles are all over the place, in favour of the accused. |
^ you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to this, sorry man no offense I don't think you understand what's being discussed there, and that's like the most basic opinion in regards to a discussion as serious as this. It's just not that simple |
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dude Soundy come on, get real.... we ALL know what I'm saying when I use the term profiling, it's generally used to describe what I'm describing.... and in an attempt to stir shlt, you try to dictionary me ? that is super weak dude, are you for real or some master troll ? |
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Sorry bro I came off harsh when I said you didn't know what you were talking about. Apologies bro Posted via RS Mobile |
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The vehicles might be random to a certain extent. It can be viewed as random because he does not know anything about the vehicle.. yet he has a purpose of pulling it over because it gave some clue to the things he is looking for: Spoiler! Zulu's way of pulling vehicles over at random could be just completely random. Yet I have seen cops that will "profile" to be able to give out more traffic fines. The Charter of Rights & Freedoms is there to protect the citizen. USA is a complete Police State where if a cop wanted to do something, and the unsuspecting citizen didn't know his rights, the cop would get away with it. Cops are given a power of authority and the Charter is there so they don't cross the line. |
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An example would be: Burnaby RCMP sitting on the median at Lougheed & Willingdon. They park their cruisers up on the median underneath the skytrain on Lougheed. They will stop cars in the Westbound left turn lane, and talk to them. If they bring up your too low, and you decide to argue in any way, they will then ask you to drive your car up onto the median aswell. (Because their cruiser could) If you fail. You get a ticket for being "too low." Lets not forget, the median does have a small slope to it, yet it is about 8-10" tall overall. |
Yea you guys definitely got me, Police profiling does not exist in Canada, geez what was I thinking when I said that :smug: but nah for real don't want to derail thread or anything like that, I was just responding to Zulus statement of him chillin on the side of the road and just pulling over whoever.... anyway fellas, proceed |
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My previous car was a modified 91 integra, and I was never hassled for being lowered 2.25", and an aftermarket exhaust. To get the attention of police officers, your vehicle must be standing out for a number of reasons, whether it be level of noise, or estethics. The fact that you choose either or both, you should expect to be noticed, and sometimes it will be by cops. |
They tried to do it to me.. Yet I know all the MVA's for lowering.. From headlight-ground clearances, to the bottom of the rim being the lowest legal part of the car. I pretty much said "You and I both know I'm not getting up that thing. Yet we both know I'm not breaking any rules." (snails is the new owner of my car. You can see his pictures of how low the car is.. IIRC he lowered it another 0.5" since he bought it from me) I've also seen it happen to others. (Used to take 123 bus home from that intersection after getting off skytrain Monday-Friday while going to school) But yes, they are there mainly for the seatbelt/cellphone check. I'm just saying that it does happen, not trying to get into an argument myself. |
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In fact, if anyone is "profiling", it's you - YOU see the car that's been pulled over, and you're making assumptions on why it happened. |
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Thanks for making assumptions though. :thumbsup: |
Way to defend yourself with nitpicking. On the bus, waiting for the bus... irrelevant. The point remains, you're not the person pulled over, you're not the cop, so you don't know what it is that's catching the cop's attention and enticing him to pull someone else over. Ergo, you have no cause to claim "profiling". |
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