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Old 02-20-2013, 12:51 AM   #1
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VPD - Not all cops are out to get you

I just wanted to share, not all cops are out to get you.

A couple of weeks ago, I was driving down kingsway around 1am heading home from gf's place. I knew I was going at least 60-65 but didn't think much of it. I got the red and blue lights in the rear view mirror, and honestly at that point I didn't think much of it, and pulled to the side to let them pass. But unfortunately the cop pulled over behind me.

As soon as I get pulled over, I usually pull out my drivers license immediately and insurance papers to have ready when they approach the vehicle. Also for the safety of the peace officers I usually roll all my windows down (since I have some rear tinted windows) It gives them better visibility and a sense of safety that I don't have anything hiding from them that could put their safety at risk.

I got the usual license and registration request and politely handed it over, the officer spoke to me about my speed saying he paced me at 80 and asked me if I knew the speed limit. I really didn't think I was going 80, probably closer to 65-70 at most.

Then he asked me if I had anything to drink. Unfortunately I just had a beer 45minutes before heading home. And so I told him that.

So right away they tell me to step out and pull out the breathalizer which I complied, since I only had 1 beer and it was 45minutes ago.

We chatted a bit while they were getting it set up, about what I do, etc.

I took the breathalizer and the cop said, he could give me a 24hr suspension, tow my car, pay for impound and storage fees, I'd have to cab home, give me a speeding ticket for going 80. But because I showed common courtesy and was polite to them, he let me off the hook and sent me on my way. Right before that he told me, in exchange for letting me off, which would have easily costed me $300, spend $30 the next day and buy my coworkers some coffee. I gladly oblidged.

We chatted a bit, and I told him I knew a lot of people who are in RCMP & VPD, etc and I understand they're doing their job, and they put their life on the line everyday, the least I could do is make it easier for them.

Anyway, needless to say the next day I bought coffee and muffins for my team at work. And I appreciate the leniency they extended to me.

Anyway, point is, show your common courtesy to Peace officers, when your house has been robbed, or you're in trouble, they're usually the first person you think of calling, you rely on them, the least you can do is put their mind at rest by being polite, courteous of their safety and oblidge to their instruction.
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I always try to be courteous to them but that's never worked yet.

Doesn't mean I'll stop treating them courteously though!

Glad to hear about your good experience.
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i find that it mostly north van that get your nerve on when they pull you over, even for routine checks. Other rcmp detachment and vpd are much more "chill" when they pull you over. Then again this is my option.
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Vpd is the worse for me.... But if they are treated with respect, they wwill respect you too just like anyone else, my problem is if they show a bit of rudeness u bet ur ass imma mouth off too
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Richmond's is out to get you. I dont even go to Richmond anymore unless it's to the airport.
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If you didn't blow at least a warn, I don't see why he could have given you a 24 hour suspension.
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Vpd is the worse for me.... But if they are treated with respect, they wwill respect you too just like anyone else, my problem is if they show a bit of rudeness u bet ur ass imma mouth off too
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Ofcourse if the cops are nice and courteous then you should be the same back.
Respect is given when respect is shown.

Same goes for cops who show up and start chewing you out, barking down your throat. I've had both kinds and know very well there are 2 sides to any law enforcement.
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You got the one that's pretending to let you off when you weren't going to get the charges anyway.

You really think if you blew a warn or over he would've let you go? I think he would be held liable for not taking your ass off the road.
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Richmond's is out to get you. I dont even go to Richmond anymore unless it's to the airport.
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Mmmm not always
I was pulled over for speeding (won't say what I was going but I admit it was pretty bad) by a ghost car
He told me to slow down and be careful on 3 road cuz "a lot of cops patrol this area in ghost cars around this time"
He let me off with a warning. And he was super nice to me saying how it's good to see my N displayed, no extra passenger yatty datty da.

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If you didn't blow at least a warn, I don't see why he could have given you a 24 hour suspension.
Unless OP still has his N, then it's zero-tolerance.
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I got caught in Richmond with no insurance. I had no idea. I should have listened to my wife when she was nagging me to check the mail for a week.

I dont understand to this day Lol. He looked almost sorry he pulled me over. Gave me 30 minutes to run to an insurance place and buy insurance. I came back with news that I couldn't because car wasnt under my name. He just towed me home and spared me the $600.

I actually thanked him as soon as he pulled me over cause I'd rather pay $600 than having to be financially responsible for any possible accidents (oddly enough about 30 min earlier some guy ran a 4 way and I had to slam on brakes).
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I was stopped in a road check on the Okanagan Connector once coming down the hill into Kelowna. Work van windshield was badly cracked. When the cop asked for my license, I realized that I'd taken it out of my wallet a couple days prior... for the clerk at the cop shop to photocopy for a criminal record check... and I'd left it in the pocket of the coat I was wearing that day.

Fortunately the cop saw the humour in that small irony, asked for my SIN number to look me up (probably checked to see if I'd had the CRC done, to confirm my story), then let me go with a box 3 (gave me 15 days to get the windshield fixed). It could have been a very expensive stop if he'd actually written tickets for the broken glass and failure to produce... worse still if he'd gone box 1, which would have left me stranded in Kelowna at the start of a three-day work trip.
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I got a front window tint ticket in Richmond when I didn't have any tint. I was really pissed off cause it was just the factory greenish glass. However, within the week, I made an appointment and talked to the officer and his boss and they looked again and deemed that there was no tint. Wasted my time, but they did do the right thing in the end.

Another situation, I was going 80km/h at around 1 am on Steveston. Got pulled over and I did the common courtesy thing of opening back window cause I do have back window tint and got my driver's license out. Unfortunately, I couldn't find my insurance papers cause I hide them in the car but couldn't find it. Guess I hid it too well. Officer shined his flashlight in the car for me, but I still couldn't find it. So, he went off to write me up. During that time, I found my insurance.

When officer came back, I told him I found the papers and then he took them back to his vehicle again.

After all that, he showed me the ticket for not having valid insurance papers and ripped it up since I did eventually find my papers and gave me a written warning for speeding. I was so happy and thanked him. During the whole process, he was very polite to me and I was polite to him as well. I think I wouldn't have gotten away with just a warning if I wasn't polite to him to start off.

I haven't had any bad experiences with cops yet and hope it stays that way.
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If you didn't blow at least a warn, I don't see why he could have given you a 24 hour suspension.
+1, can somebody elaborate? You were also 30 over the limit (assuming 50km/h) so it wouldn't have been excessive.

Just curious if you knew what BAC you blew with 1 beer 45 mins prior?
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Unless OP still has his N, then it's zero-tolerance.
if he was an N where there is no tolerance, it would be an immediate 12 hour prohibition, not 24

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+1, can somebody elaborate? You were also 30 over the limit (assuming 50km/h) so it wouldn't have been excessive.

Just curious if you knew what BAC you blew with 1 beer 45 mins prior?
excessive is 40+ over the limit.

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Yes I realize, hence it "wouldn't" have been excessive as he was 30 over.

Didn't realize he was N, I guess that's where he would've get hit with the suspension.
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Yes I realize, hence it "wouldn't" have been excessive as he was 30 over.

Didn't realize he was N, I guess that's where he would've get hit with the suspension.
We don't know if he was an N or not. He never mentioned it. I read your post wrong, and thought you were asking if 30 over was excessive.

Either the OP is stating inaccurate facts of what happened, or the police was trying to scare him.
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Ya, just like everything else. Usually they're all good it's the few bad apples that ruin it for everyone else.

Hell, I had a cop let me off for doing donuts once and coulda given me a VI at the same time. He was cool.
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Here's my story,

Spend all day fixing my car (replacing relays and whatnot to get signals working)
Finally finish, decide to take it for a spin. Forget my cellphone, wallet, N sign (yes, I'm still an N) sitting on my workbench

Ended up doing a right turn onto oak from 71st, which apparently isn't allowed. Cop pulls me over and I do the usual roll down the back windows/turn on interior lights (5% tint in the rear ontop of factory) so he can see me. Anyways, I was honest with the cop about why I didn't have any ID with me, or even a cell phone. He ended up letting me go with just a failure to produce ID ticket, which was $51 opposed to no N sign + failure to produce + ignoring a sign (which carries points as well).



Looked it up, sign I ignored:





VPD as a whole are pretty chill IMO. A few times I've been DD-ing and had more people than allowed in my car -- cops saw that I was doing a good thing and let me go.
Done a whole lot more stupid shit in cars as a teenager, and as a whole, VPD has always been cool. RCMP almost always gives me a hard time/tickets for trivial crap.
I'm afraid to even turn on my fog lights in richmond because of RCMP lol.
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Here's my story,

Spend all day fixing my car (replacing relays and whatnot to get signals working)
Finally finish, decide to take it for a spin. Forget my cellphone, wallet, N sign (yes, I'm still an N) sitting on my workbench

Ended up doing a right turn onto oak from 71st, which apparently isn't allowed. Cop pulls me over and I do the usual roll down the back windows/turn on interior lights (5% tint in the rear ontop of factory) so he can see me. Anyways, I was honest with the cop about why I didn't have any ID with me, or even a cell phone. He ended up letting me go with just a failure to produce ID ticket, which was $51 opposed to no N sign + failure to produce + ignoring a sign (which carries points as well).



Looked it up, sign I ignored:





VPD as a whole are pretty chill IMO. A few times I've been DD-ing and had more people than allowed in my car -- cops saw that I was doing a good thing and let me go.
Done a whole lot more stupid shit in cars as a teenager, and as a whole, VPD has always been cool. RCMP almost always gives me a hard time/tickets for trivial crap.
I'm afraid to even turn on my fog lights in richmond because of RCMP lol.
why do you need your foglights on?
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my story..

Me and a buddy were spent a couple hours working on his project car. (Drift Skyline) it was running like crab but we wanted to take it around the block. it died half a block away from the house. (It has no plates or Temp permit on it) and we both had left wallets ID etc in the garage.. so we are pushing it, when a cop drives by. He stops and then backs up, and asks us why there is no plates on the car. we explain the situation and he asks for our DL's which we cant produce.

He tells us that we shouldnt drive a car without insurance. however since he didnt see us driving it, well we can carry on. Just dont drive without insurance or DL's again.
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i don't have an N sign and i think i blew 0.058, which would be a 24hr right?

Oh and it was probably higher than usual because i had 2 beers at dinner like a few hours before hand
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i don't have an N sign and i think i blew 0.058, which would be a 24hr right?
No such thing anymore...
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