Being vital for emergencies is a bit of a bad argument.

A better argument would be that a cellphone is hardly a cellphone anymore, and it is now a personal device that does way more than talk and text. Hell, I run my business from my phone.

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I loathe people who talk and drive (I was once sandwiched between a SUV and a Civic because the Civic driver prioritized talking on his phone over paying attention to his driving) but I am definitely not in favour of giving Big Brother more arbitrary power over us.

It's like when they first started seizing vehicles for going 40 over, Everyone was in an uproar and then it became "normal". What's next is what we need to be worried about.

Drivers on Cell Phones Are as Bad as Drunks - University of Utah News Release: June 29th, 2006
ScienceDirect.com - Accident Analysis & Prevention - Wireless telephones and the risk of road crashes
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/facts-resea...transcript.pdf
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first world problems here....and a lot of guilty parties...lol

can i just state something.

I eat my mcd meals on the go everytime i go out to a job site etc.
I eat with one hand, drive with another while chatting up with my passenger.
Im constantly digging for fries, shoving that burger IN MY FUCKING FACE.
AND to top it off, chat and smoke n drink w.e while drive.

thats ok.


im on the PHONE 1 hand driving the other hold it towards me with speakers on.
that is NOT OK

dafaq?


ps: nasty fart girls putting on make up at red light/driving.
is OKAY.................. srsly?

I am not in favour of anyone seizing a personal or business phone. Here is my thing, what does a phone have to do with the motor vehicle act?

You want to talk on your phone and drive, no problem. how about a 24 hr license suspension. The next day you can talk/browse on your phone from the bus or taxi on your way to work.

24 hrs without a phone that can be used to communicate/do business can actually be very costly. I know a few people that without a cell phone they would not be able to work at all.
24 hrs without a license on the other hand. There are other ways to acquire transportation.

thats what bluetooth head is used for.. if you gotta email or whatever to make the deal, how are you going to do it properly while driving to begin with.. either pull over or call them back later...

just because there isn't a specific law against it doesn't make it ok

that's why we have things like 'Driving without due care and attention'

So when did driving without due care become insufficient for cellphones?

There's gotta be better use of police resources then to confiscate people's phones :suspicious:

Exactly! Someone with brains wow.

Take away their license but I still fail to see how intruding on someones right to have a phone have anything to do with the MVA.

Anyone else notice how cops love to use the excuse that they have 'special training' to be able to use electronics while they are driving? Why isn't this 'training' readily available to the general public? If driving with your cellphone impairs your brain just like alcohol that means that cops also have 'training' to feel no effects of alcohol? :fulloffuck::seriously:

my favourite post about this topic on news 1130

"would this apply to police officers driving while reading a computer screen? No, because they are exempt – but are they distracted? No, Police say because they have special training. So – this training should be available (I didn’t say free) for everybody. Serious, advanced training to operate a motor vehicle with retesting"

seriously though, if they do this it should be mandatory for cops to use bluetooths. For every 3 or 4 people I see using a cellphone, I always see one cop talking on his phone driving (even swerving while doing so)

Exactly. If somebody is a sole proprietor, the police may have just shut down their business for 24 hours.

Easy answer to that is to either:

1) not use cell phones as per the law
2) not get caught..
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This.

Several times I have seen cops on the road while talking on the phone or using their laptops. I've even seen a cop in traffic talking on the phone while pulling somebody over (who was also on the phone) :suspicious:

Lol. I have my phone number on the side of my truck and sometimes I wonder if it is a cop calling me to see if I check my phone when it rings.

So should we not impound the cars of people who drink and drive because they need them to get to work?

Maybe we shouldn't imprison murderers because they have a family to support?


When you commit a crime you chose to accept the risk of punishment. Don't like the punishment? Don't do the crime.

If you get caught drinking and driving you are banned from driving. So they take away your car. You get caught using a phone well driving you are not banned from using any phone anywhere for 24 hours.

:gtfo:

Paint a bar of soap black to look like a cellphone, and when the cops pull you over to confiscate it, you just hand them over saying "I didn't know about the soap driving laws" :troll:

Huge apples to oranges comparison.

The thing is they CANNOT prove you were on your phone while driving unlike alcohol.

What are they going to do? Carry cameras with them and snap a picture? Pay a fine to release your cellphone back to you?

You can't have two sets of laws for two different scenarios. Alcohol applies to both parties while cellphone use does not.

And you could say the opposite too about certain laws in general. Just because we have a law doesn't mean their always 'right' or appropriate. For example, in the Morgentaler case nobody on the jury would convict the abortion doctor even though they knew he was guilty. Response? Parliament forced to change law or continue making an ass of themselves.

You cite examples that aren't even comparable. Cell phone usage is on the same level as drinking and driving and murder now? too bad you forget that punishment has to be proportionate to the crime. We live in a "democracy", there are considerations for things such as undue hardship. Don't be so simple minded.

Yea, why would we want facts and proof in this thread :suspicious:

As bad as murder, obviously not. As bad as drinking and driving? Yep. I'd say so. That's what the studies say.

And yea, they punishment is proportionate. They're not giving you 20 years in jail or cutting off your hand, they're taking away an item used to commit a crime for 24 hours.

So would you be happier if you got a 24 hour driving suspension for talking on your cellphone? I'd be ok with that.