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Old 03-19-2013, 12:00 PM   #1
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Hi new to the forum and bought a car with rolled back odometer...

Hey guys,

Long time lurker of the forum, just never needed to make an account or post until recently.

As you can tell from the title, I bought my first car a couple days ago. It is a 2000 accord 4 cylinder EX with 145,000km for $3350.

Now I learned a huge expensive life lesson. I got scammed because of my carelessness and stupidity. I failed to inspect the car properly. The digital odometer has been tampered with. Last airecare reading was in 02/12 at 256,000km...

Any ideas on what I can do? I'm pretty sure I have no chance to get the money back from the seller.

What about the car? Should i go to a dealership and get the "150 point" inspection?

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you already got the car, why do you want teh 150 point inspection? + the dealership overcharges for that kind of stuff (e.g. checking if you have wipers count as a point)

Is it a private or 2nd hand dealer?
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wait... did anything go wrong or are you just anticipating something to go wrong cuz of the high km?
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If you bought it from a dealership, you can get all your money back as long as they didn't declare it. No question. If this is the case, post so, and I will walk you through the steps to make a complaint with the VSA. If you bought it privately, you are 95% SOL.

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I'd still confront the seller whether it's private or not. That's BS. They lied to you.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:57 PM   #6
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It is a private dealer.

I feel like I should get some of full inspection because i dont know how safe the car is or if it is even worth keeping


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I'd still confront the seller whether it's private or not. That's BS. They lied to you.
I still have his phone number, email, and address. But I don't think confronting him will do anything.

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What do you mean private dealer? did you either A. Buy it from a guy (e.g. craiglist) or from a dealer (888 Auto, Vancouver Honda)

At least you got a honda, so parts are easy to find and they are still 'reliable'. Keep the car and just try to do the basic maintenance on it to keep it running. Did you at least do a visual inspection to locate the condition of the brake pads/timing belt/fluid levels etc.??
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It is a private dealer.

I feel like I should get some of full inspection because i dont know how safe the car is or if it is even worth keeping
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You should have done all this in the first place. I would attempt to get my money back from the dealer. If the odometer has been rolled back, who knows what has (or has not) been done to the car in terms of maintenance.
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I'd still confront the seller whether it's private or not. That's BS. They lied to you.
+1, if you have the e-mail's or ad with his postings that I think you could have a chance at small-claims
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I'd tell them to give me my money back before I call the cops.
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Then I'd call the cops on them anyways.
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Sorry guys, i meant private deal. so a guy from craigslist.

My engine check light came on and i got it fixed up. It was the EGR valve. I'm guessing this is going to the the first of many problems to come haha. According to the mechanic, the timing belt will last me two more years.

I'm not very familiar with claims or laws, but how would I do it? Would i need to get a lawyer, if I do, not sure if it seems worth it.
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That sucks. If you have enough evidence, take his ass to small claims! But Goodluck eh
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Sorry guys, i meant private deal. so a guy from craigslist.

My engine check light came on and i got it fixed up. It was the EGR valve. I'm guessing this is going to the the first of many problems to come haha. According to the mechanic, the timing belt will last me two more years.

I'm not very familiar with claims or laws, but how would I do it? Would i need to get a lawyer, if I do, not sure if it seems worth it.
On the transfer papers the seller signed he is supposed to declare if the odometer has been replaced and estimated mileage if done so. If you still have that piece of paper it may be your ticket to get your money back. On the brightside, this is something you CAN take to small claims court as the limit for such law suits is 10k I believe and you are well under.

Also, take a look here Welcome: Legal aid BC

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On the transfer papers the seller signed he is supposed to declare if the odometer has been replaced and estimated mileage if done so. If you still have that piece of paper it may be your ticket to get your money back. On the brightside, this is something you CAN take to small claims court as the limit for such law suits is 10k I believe and you are well under.

Also, take a look here Welcome: Legal aid BC

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Thanks I still do have the receipt. I will try to look into small claims. Not very familiar with the process. Does LSS provide free legal advice? it looks like it ight be a sliding scale or something?

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I haven't used their services, but a few years ago I bought a car from a dealer that had a bad head gasket, there was a number in the Blue Pages where you can call can make an appointment with a lawyer for like $20 and they give you a bit of legal advice. I don't know what that is anymore, a quick google search provided me with this: Dial-A-Law

Also, for further FREE legal advice, you can meet with a UBC Law student here: Law Students' Legal Advice Program

From their website :
"LSLAP assists low-income earners with various legal issues, including:

Criminal;
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IMHO, for something like this I think LSLAP should suffice. Once again, good luck!

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Honestly, changing the odometer is illegal..

like you said, if he is a private dealer you can either
A) get him screwed, shut his business down and maybe even sue him

B) he might have not known about this and you may have to track back to how this had happened. maybe they just changed a guage and they didn't get the shown clicks changed.

I think you should take advise from the previous poster (fatty2.0) and talk to a lawyer if its only $20. they'll be able to give you the best advise
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I doubt the odometer was "rolled back".., if anything the cluster was swapped for whatever reason
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I doubt the odometer was "rolled back".., if anything the cluster was swapped for whatever reason
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