Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 8197503)

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The GT500 is even faster on the track then the Boss 302. 1:38.7 on Laguna Seca. So, it corners just fine :) And it did a better lap time on Laguna Seca then the ZL1 (1:39.18) See my above post and watch the video, fullscreen.

The ZL1 is intended to be the GT500's competitor.
The 1LE is intended to be the Boss 302's competitor.
The Z/28 is, well, I have no idea why they made it. It is expected to cost 65k+!!!!!

Most GT500 owners do not track their car, neither do ZL1 owners. Most owners are not capable of pushing their cars to its max abilities. I also think its silly to buy a car 100% based on magazine specs. You really have to test drive it to know.

I owned a Boss 302 Laguna Seca, and I have a GT500 on order. Before I bought my Mustangs, I looked at the ZL1 and actually test drove it. I came out feeling it was a great car, but the GT500 just felt slightly better in every way. Since most people, realistically don't track their cars, and since I don't plan on it, the GT500 was the better choice. Both the ZL1 and GT500 are prone to heatsoak, so neither are really a good choice for the track anyhow.

My gut feeling is, the Z28 will be faster then the GT500 on the track but it will cost the same as a new Z06. I don't know about you, but I rather have the Z06....

Originally Posted by BigBadWhitey (Post 8197562)

So around the 1 track the mustang was designed based on, its faster on. Fair enough. Ive driven both mustangs and just not a fan. I prefer the magnetic ride in the zl1 or the vette, feels more stable on every day roads as well.

Also there is no way in hell a new z06 will come in the same price as the z28. The new c7 in base model form is going to cost around the 59K mark, and the z51 package costing a few k more. Considering the outgoing c6z is now going for about 75k for a basic packaged 2013, i dont see the c7 being any cheaper than that. Expect a 1lz to be 80+

Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 8197563)

All I have to say is:

Holden Monaro-based
Independent
Rear
Suspension.

So this is going to be inherently better to drive than a Mustang whether you drive it at 100% or 10% of its capabilities. That prospect blows the Mustang out of the water already.

Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 8197687)

a BMW M5 is heavier at 4288lb, and it's got impeccable handling, I don't see an issue.

Originally Posted by Yodamaster (Post 8197705)

This has got to be my favorite looking new car so far, mainly because of the exterior updates. I like that the taillights look more like the original Camaro, the headlights don't look as bulky either.

Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 8197702)

As a track car, lighter=better.

You can feel the weight in turns. Reducing weight in a car increases fuel economy, reduces tire wear, increases handling and makes it quicker. The M5 is still a heavy car.

Even with 300 pounds off the heavy Camaro, it will weigh as much as the GT500 and still not as light as the Boss 302. Most of the complaints of the Camaro is the weight, and you can feel it in turns. I test drove a ZL1 and I felt it. In my Boss 302, it was a non-issue.

Nonetheless, the Camaro Z28 should be interesting. I think it a little late, imo.

I wonder if the issues with the LS7 will be fixed on the Z28, lol

Originally Posted by vitaminG (Post 8197715)

your talking like a GT500 is some lightweight track machine. I'd much rather have magnetic shocks and IRS for the track or the street then 75 HP and a bit less weight.

Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 8197563)

All I have to say is:

Holden Monaro-based
Independent
Rear
Suspension.

So this is going to be inherently better to drive than a Mustang whether you drive it at 100% or 10% of its capabilities. That prospect blows the Mustang out of the water already.

Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 8197723)

The Z/28 does not have magnetic susp.

Originally Posted by Tyler_P (Post 8198250)

IRS doesn't matter as much as wide track, low cg/weight etc.

The tops cars in Grassroots Motorsports ultimate track car competition use Nascar chassis with different bodies. They use a truck arm rear suspension.