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lightened, and LS7, GM tells Mustang BOSS 302 Laguna to suck it
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One of the trims glaringly absent from the fifth-generation Chevrolet Camaro lineup has been the famous Z/28. That absence ended decisively and forcefully at the 2013 New York Auto Show with the launch of the 2014 Camaro Z/28, which may be the greatest Z/28 ever. You may think we're just drinking Chevy's PR Kool Aid with the term "greatest" but once you see the extent of the engineering and content of the new Z/28, we think you'll be inclined to agree. While the street/track ZL1 utilizes a supercharged 6.2-liter V-8 to provide its 580 hp and 556 lb-ft of torque, the Z/28 utilizes the outgoing Corvette Z06's 7.0-liter naturally aspirated LS7 V-8. Final power figures have not been announced, but Chevrolet promises at least 500 hp and 470 lb-ft of torque. The LS7 was selected over the supercharged LSA for its broad torque curve and high 7000-rpm redline, which makes it well-suited for high-speed track driving. Both the engine and Tremec TR606 six-speed manual transmission, the only available, have dedicated high-capacity cooling systems. Beyond the monster naturally-aspirated engine, the Z/28 features unique shocks, tires, brakes, suspension tuning, and a comprehensive and strategic lightening that ditches many of the niceties found on "consumer-grade" Camaros in pursuit of maximum performance. Even air conditioning, which most of us now take for granted as standard equipment even in the lowliest econoboxes, is offered only as a stand-alone option in concession to the Z/28's limited dual purpose as a street car. As Camaro chief engineer Al Oppenheiser put it, this is "the fastest road-racing Camaro possible that's still street-legal." To keep the Z/28 stable on the track, it features a full aerodynamic package consisting of a front splitter, underbody panel, fender flares, extended rocker panels, and a rear spoiler and functional diffuser. The 20-inch wheels used on the SS and ZL1 were swapped for 19-inch wheels, which reduce total unsprung weight by a total of 42 lb and lower the car's center of gravity 33 millimeters. Rather than utilizing different-sized wheels and tires front to rear, all four corners of the Z/28 are shod with 305/30ZR-19 Pirelli PZero Trofeo R tires -- the ultra-high-performance tire's production debut -- that are believed to be the widest front tires on any production car. Shocks feature spool-valve technology allowing for individual adjustment of bumper and rebound settings for both high and low-speed wheel motions. This allowed for an increase in the maximum damper stiffness while not adversely affecting on-road ride quality. Chevrolet claims the suspension tuning and tires facilitate a face-distorting maximum lateral acceleration of 1.05 g.
Behind the purposeful rolling stock are massive 15.5-inch front Brembo carbon ceramic matrix brakes clamped by six-piston calipers in the front; 15.3-inch rotors with four-piston calipers sit in the back. In addition to the rotor material's superior heat and fade-resistance capacity, the composite rotors save a total of 28 lb per car. The lightening didn't stop with the suspension and brakes. The rear seat design and material was optimized and the trunk pass-through was eliminated in the quest to save nine pounds. Other non-essential kit such as fog lights, trunk carpeting, a tire inflator kit (except in states required by law), sound deadening and HID headlights were left in the spare parts pile. Even the rear window glass is 0.3 mm thinner. In all, the Z/28 is 100 lb lighter than a comparable SS coupe and 300 lb lighter than the ZL1 coupe. To keep the driver focused, yet comfortable, the front seats are aggressively-bolstered Recaro units with microfiber suede inserts for high-speed grip, with the obligatory seat cut-outs to facilitate the installation of five-point harnesses. The seats are strictly manually-adjustable. The Z/28 may not have the eye-popping horsepower figures of the Shelby GT500, or the gentleman's GT demeanor of capable ZL1, but we have to appreciate the Camaro team's dedication to doing this legendary designation proud. Drive-in poseurs need not apply. In addition to the Z/28, Chevrolet also showed the facelifted 2014 Camaro SS. Though it gets all of the same visual updates as the new Z/28, the 2014 SS (and the rest of the Camaro lineup) continues with the same powertrains that were offered in 2013.
The Boss 302 is gone for the 2014MY. While Chevrolet FINALLY refreshed the Gen5, Ford is working on an entirely new platform with IRS. By fall of 2014, the new Mustang will be out and it will be lighter and faster then the current S197 gen. Which already weighs less then the new 2014 Camaro. The Camaro also has a shitty interior that sucks ass. Ford is still on the top. The 2014 Shelby GT500 dominates ANY Camaro.
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The Boss 302 is gone for the 2014MY. While Chevrolet FINALLY refreshed the Gen5, Ford is working on an entirely new platform with IRS. By fall of 2014, the new Mustang will be out and it will be lighter and faster then the current S197 gen. Which already weighs less then the new 2014 Camaro. The Camaro also has a shitty interior that sucks ass. Ford is still on the top. The 2014 Shelby GT500 dominates ANY Camaro.
I was just thinking that. The BOSS is practically already out of production, and GM is just producing the Z/28 now?
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The Boss 302 is gone for the 2014MY. While Chevrolet FINALLY refreshed the Gen5, Ford is working on an entirely new platform with IRS. By fall of 2014, the new Mustang will be out and it will be lighter and faster then the current S197 gen. Which already weighs less then the new 2014 Camaro. The Camaro also has a shitty interior that sucks ass. Ford is still on the top. The 2014 Shelby GT500 dominates ANY Camaro.
Uh, no. The zl1 camaro was still faster around a track than the GT500 and the boss 302, so i wouldnt say its late or short. Good try shortround?
The Boss 302 is gone for the 2014MY. While Chevrolet FINALLY refreshed the Gen5, Ford is working on an entirely new platform with IRS. By fall of 2014, the new Mustang will be out and it will be lighter and faster then the current S197 gen. Which already weighs less then the new 2014 Camaro. The Camaro also has a shitty interior that sucks ass. Ford is still on the top. The 2014 Shelby GT500 dominates ANY Camaro.
The GT500 has way more power and better acceleration than the ZL1, but in all the comparos I've seen, the ZL1 is faster around the track. Considering that the Z28 will probably be faster than the ZL1 around a track, here's to hoping that the new Mustang comes out with with decent power and handling.
I wonder if they also incorporated the dry sump for the camaro
I believe they did. They had the dealers order list online for a while that people got a hold of, with option orders and dry sump wasnt specified as an optional upgrade, so i assume it comes standard with the engine as the ls7 has previously. Considering it is their track oriented car, anything less that wouldnt be the norm.
The GT500 has way more power and better acceleration than the ZL1, but in all the comparos I've seen, the ZL1 is faster around the track. Considering that the Z28 will probably be faster than the ZL1 around a track, here's to hoping that the new Mustang comes out with with decent power and handling.
The GT500 is even faster on the track then the Boss 302. 1:38.7 on Laguna Seca. So, it corners just fine And it did a better lap time on Laguna Seca then the ZL1 (1:39.18) See my above post and watch the video, fullscreen.
The ZL1 is intended to be the GT500's competitor.
The 1LE is intended to be the Boss 302's competitor.
The Z/28 is, well, I have no idea why they made it. It is expected to cost 65k+!!!!!
Most GT500 owners do not track their car, neither do ZL1 owners. Most owners are not capable of pushing their cars to its max abilities. I also think its silly to buy a car 100% based on magazine specs. You really have to test drive it to know.
I owned a Boss 302 Laguna Seca, and I have a GT500 on order. Before I bought my Mustangs, I looked at the ZL1 and actually test drove it. I came out feeling it was a great car, but the GT500 just felt slightly better in every way. Since most people, realistically don't track their cars, and since I don't plan on it, the GT500 was the better choice. Both the ZL1 and GT500 are prone to heatsoak, so neither are really a good choice for the track anyhow.
My gut feeling is, the Z28 will be faster then the GT500 on the track but it will cost the same as a new Z06. I don't know about you, but I rather have the Z06....
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And it did a better lap time on Laguna Seca then the ZL1 (1:39.18) See my above post and watch the video, fullscreen.