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04-04-2013, 06:26 PM
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#26 | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp What's an MSG headache?
Pretty much all of Japanese cooking use loads of it... And everyone knows that these are the unhealthiest, fattest people in the world with the lowest life spans right! | MSG Headache, powerband power, santa claus, easter bunny.
What do they all have in common?
They just imaginary things that don't exist.
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04-04-2013, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Vansterdam what do you guys eat XOsauce with?
i only use it for dim sum but I should try it with chinese buns next time | lo bak go |
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04-04-2013, 09:56 PM
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#28 | I subscribe to the Fight Club ONLY
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i don't like to put in MSG because it doesn't necessary represent the food properly. I mean, i much rather have a bowl of nice ramen, pho, any FOOD that doesn't have MSG than to eat something with MSG.
in my opinion, 9 out of 10 times, i get very thirtsy after pho and it's literllay cause of the MSG in the food and not the salt.
Salt doesn't give the same effect as MSG; i can't explain it as I'm not a scientist and taste is very subjective so i'll just leave it at that.
on all the meals i cook, all the food i make, i don't put in any MSG.
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04-04-2013, 10:02 PM
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Taste is indeed subjective. Some people don't like salty, some don't like sweet, some don't like bitter. Apparently you don't like umami.
But to make up shit like "msg headaches" and "I get really thirsty and I know it's not from salt" is just silly (although I suppose it's possible that you have an intolerance to glutamates, that's just you, and doesn't make people who don't have your issues "douchey"). IMO, the anecdotal negative feelings that fall within "chinese food syndrome" is most likely caused by eating huge amounts of carbs + unhealthy vegetable oil.
Just say you don't like umami, and leave it at that. BTW foods heavy in umami include any meat product and 99% of all soup ever made.
I like umami too, but sometimes it can be too much. I can't drink very many soups in Japan, because it is so umami. They love it here (why do you think so much of their cuisine uses seaweed? it is loaded with glutamates. Same goes for Chinese food using soy sauce. The whole point of soy sauce is to add umami), and for me they tend to go a bit overboard.
So it's subjective, it doesn't mean someone is a "douche" for liking umami flavour, and wanting to enhance it
And finally, when you try to avoid MSG by buying something that is "MSG free", all they do is replace MSG with another form of free glutamates... monopotassium glutamate, calcium diglutamate, monoammonium glutamate, and magnesium diglutamate. Same shit, just using a different salt. But it's MSG free!
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04-05-2013, 07:24 AM
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#30 | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by 6793026 in my opinion, 9 out of 10 times, i get very thirtsy after pho and it's literllay cause of the MSG in the food and not the salt.
Salt doesn't give the same effect as MSG; i can't explain it as I'm not a scientist and taste is very subjective so i'll just leave it at that. | Quote:
A controlled double-blind multicenter clinical trial failed to demonstrate the relationship between MSG symptom complex and the consumption of MSG in individuals who believed they reacted adversely against MSG. No statistical association has been demonstrated, there were few responses and they were inconsistent
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04-05-2013, 12:08 PM
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#31 | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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Originally Posted by 6793026 ^ the ham they put in is epic expensive. you could just not put any in.
i never cut up my shrimp because i want people to know i put in large ones and not just little charity pieces.
sorry, but this guy has shitty ass cutting skills and clearly his garlic overflowed the pan. Please be super carefuly when you make this (if you want to do it), the oil will over flow and when you do put in garlic / shallots, do NOT over cook it as it will for sure turn brown and create a burnt taste. | Replace that ham with bacon |
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04-05-2013, 02:28 PM
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#32 | The Brown Reason
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ld50 for salt (g/kg bodyweight):
16,600 [1]
ld50 for msg (g/kg bodyweight):
3000 [1]
1) http://jn.nutrition.org/content/130/4/1049S.short
oh look ... here's a scientist .. with degrees and shit ... and a published + reviewed study.
Let's completely disregard his findings! hurrah!
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04-06-2013, 09:57 PM
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#33 | I subscribe to the Fight Club ONLY
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Originally Posted by extracrunchie Replace that ham with bacon | doesn't work. when you get to the later stage of frying the oil, the bacon becomes very black burnt bacon bits, the ham works much much better.
i usually add some 菜宝 to give it a slight crunch. AND you could put in some fried garlic shavings to give it a contrast.
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04-06-2013, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp Taste is indeed subjective. Some people don't like salty, some don't like sweet, some don't like bitter. Apparently you don't like umami.
But to make up shit like "msg headaches" and "I get really thirsty and I know it's not from salt" is just silly (although I suppose it's possible that you have an intolerance to glutamates, that's just you, and doesn't make people who don't have your issues "douchey"). IMO, the anecdotal negative feelings that fall within "chinese food syndrome" is most likely caused by eating huge amounts of carbs + unhealthy vegetable oil.
Just say you don't like umami, and leave it at that. BTW foods heavy in umami include any meat product and 99% of all soup ever made.
I like umami too, but sometimes it can be too much. I can't drink very many soups in Japan, because it is so umami. They love it here (why do you think so much of their cuisine uses seaweed? it is loaded with glutamates. Same goes for Chinese food using soy sauce. The whole point of soy sauce is to add umami), and for me they tend to go a bit overboard.
So it's subjective, it doesn't mean someone is a "douche" for liking umami flavour, and wanting to enhance it
And finally, when you try to avoid MSG by buying something that is "MSG free", all they do is replace MSG with another form of free glutamates... monopotassium glutamate, calcium diglutamate, monoammonium glutamate, and magnesium diglutamate. Same shit, just using a different salt. But it's MSG free! | hmm interesting, but you have a strong point. geez skinny, you never cease to amaze me with your polar opposite viewpoints
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04-06-2013, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by instantneedles hmm interesting, but you have a strong point. geez skinny, you never cease to amaze me with your polar opposite viewpoints | I live life with a skeptical chip on my shoulder - you should too!
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04-16-2013, 07:39 PM
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#36 | I bringith the lowerballerith
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Originally Posted by Vansterdam what do you guys eat XOsauce with?
i only use it for dim sum but I should try it with chinese buns next time | Like Franks hot sauce.
I put that on everything.
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