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What brands test their street seats? Ok so I've been hearing horror stories of peoples cheap/knockoff seats breaking and so I'm trying to find some info on what non-racing seats are actually tested by the manufacturer to meet or exceed OEM testing standards cause I don't assume things are good just because of the brand. To better clarify I'm not asking about FIA certified fixed buckets, I'm asking about the non-FIA reclinable seats. ie the Corbeau Forza Sport is listed as FIA certified, however the Corbeau A4 doesn't list any kind of testing whatsoever. edit: What I've found thus far: Sparco USA - Only the "R700A" and "R700P" are TUV Homologated and tested/approved to ECE 17 (Europe) and FMVSS 208 (USA) standards, the rest list no testing Bride - Recaro - states all seats must take "20% greater load in static tests than required by law", and "at least 300% greater load in dynamic tests than required by law". They also offer aftermarket seats with side airbags (not applicable for some I know). Yonaka - emailed about testing OMP USA - Only the "Design 2" and "Style" are European Directive 96/37/EC compliant, the rest list no testing Momo - Only makes FIA race seats Status - no testing Cobra - "Le Mans", "Misano", "Sidewinder" & "Daytona" are tested to ECE R17/FMVSS 207 and ADR 3, "Roadster 7" meets latest IVA standards, they also offer RFID tagged seats to track ownership, age and accidents. |
I'm sure the brand name companies keep their construction quality pretty decent. A seat might not be FIA due to other reasons, I'm sure sending in a seat to get crash tested would increase the cost so they might sell a non-fia seat at a lower price for a different consumer. Might also be stuff like flame resistant fabric or a sub belt hole that you wouldn't need on a street seat. I sat in a sparco fighter (non-fia) and a replica bride and they are dramatically different in sturdiness. The sparco was a lot heavier though |
Sorry, but "I'm sure they're pretty decent" is all I seem to be finding on this stuff. I'm not going to pay extra for a brand just because it's assumed to be better with no actual proof, likewise there might be lesser known brands that people assume are crappy but actually test their product and therefore produce a safer seat. Looking at those two seats I picked at random as an example, the A4 actually costs more than the FIA certified Forza Sport. Adding in the reclining feature obviously costs more than making a solid bucket, but this seems odd to me. |
Ok I'm going to be digging into the seats and contacting manufacturers if needed, so if you guys know of any brands that I haven't got up top please list them. |
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If you are concerned about street safety look no further than taking reclinable seats out of cars that came stock with them. i.e. Recaros out of DC2s and EVOs and such... then you can sleep at night knowing that these seats meet or exceed the crash standards for a production vehicle. |
i had the recaro in my celiac before.. and they feel better than any aftermarket seats I've sat in |
I have Recaro SPG's and are the most comfortable fixed buckets as compliments by every single person who ever sat in my car. You pay a premium for the design, and very little for the actual material itself. For reclinables, I would be looking at the DC2 Recaro's, or Recaro Sport's, they're good for what they are. and give your interior a stock look depending on what material is purchased. I've never sat in Sparco's but are also highly rated, they're probably a bit heavier from the tube frame, but it's a street car, you won't notice the difference. Another brand to consider is Status racing, their line of reclinables are called "Spa". They are highly regarded as a premium brand. I think k3lv had a set of the Status Ring fixed buckets, he can probably chime in on the quality. If you want something that looks like a fixed and of greater quality, check out the Bride GIAS/Euro/CUGA/Stradia/ETC reclinables, their reclinable bucket's quality are one of the best. You will be sitting in this seat as much as you are driving, I would concern myself with spending more on a better design, than something cheap. I know for a fact those Corbeau's are dirt cheap, but are also very susceptible to wear & tear, as well as being extremely uncomfortable on your lower back on longer drives. |
Yeah Recaros are safe just watch this vid |
Do your OEM seats have airbags? If so, i wouldn't recommend DD'ing the ones without... |
^ Mine don't, but so far only Recaro offers an aftermarket seat with airbags. Quote:
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The Cobra Monaco is another affordable FIA approved seat, If you can, sit in a few steel tube frame seats before you buy, they aren't as comfortable and in my case if I were half an inch taller my head would be up against the steel tube on my Sparco Sprints. Not an issue when you're wearing a helmet but if you were rear ended on the street and banged the rear of your head against that steel tube it has ZERO give. Safety is not just in the structural integrity of the seat, if you get a concussion from a minor rear ender on the street that is not safe. You're welcome to sit in my Sparco Sprints if you'd like |
I'm not looking at fixed buckets, finding FIA approved buckets isn't too difficult because everyone labels them as FIA approved. The tricky part has been finding tested recliners because that's what most people want in a street car, and like you said some seats that are very safe on the track can actually be more dangerous on the street. I drove a buddies Soarer with replica race buckets in it that had those side head support bits and that was extra sketchy because you couldn't shoulder check. Cobra does make some certified reclinable seats though, I'll add them to the list. I'd love to try out the Sprints but I live in Kelowna so that would be a bit of a trek. |
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i would also worry about modified seat rails, the ones in my first car were gas welded together so shittyly |
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So do you have any new news from the manufacturers about the safety of the seats you are looking at? On the other hand, an OEM seat involved in a front end accident is probably ok as nothing has bumped into the seat (driver is thrown forward into the steering wheel) Also for Recaro they sell a lot of their existing OEM models also as aftermarket models (EVOX seats, DC2 DC5 seats, Toyota Supra / Hilux seats, for example) then you can just buy those brand new. |
Yonaka hasn't replied yet, Status emailed me back today, they do not test their reclining seats: Quote:
Good to know about the Recaro's, they say that they heavily test all of their seats as well so as long as you can be sure you're getting authentic seats you're good to go. |
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